Mesaba

[Flybet3]

Hey guys can anyone give me what mesaba's training like? How many weeks of systems, do you do the Oral before the SIM or at the same day as your checkride? How many hours of IOE do you do? This is for the SAAB.

 

[PilotChapin]

How did the interview go bud? I got a conditional job offer. Waiting for a class date.

 

[sopdan]

1 week of Indoc
couple days of general subjects
2 weeks of systems
few days of CPT
oral
sims
PC
LOFT
FMS

IOE is about 20 hours I believe

How quick you get through training depends on your individual schedule after systems. It took two months for me to get from day one to the end of training (not including IOE). If you need extra sims, that could get even longer. However, some guys in my class finished a few weeks earlier.

 

[Flybet3]

1 week of Indoc
couple days of general subjects
2 weeks of systems
few days of CPT
oral
sims
PC
LOFT
FMS

IOE is about 20 hours I believe

How quick you get through training depends on your individual schedule after systems. It took two months for me to get from day one to the end of training (not including IOE). If you need extra sims, that could get even longer. However, some guys in my class finished a few weeks earlier.

Sounds good man. Thank you, you know where I can find some info on crashpads in the Memphis area?

 

[Flybet3]

How did the interview go bud? I got a conditional job offer. Waiting for a class date.

Congrats bro! I got a conditional offer too. Just waiting on the class date as well. I'm shooting for november. Really exciting time.

 

[MEL'ed]

ya'll get a CA or FO spot of the Saab?

 

[Flybet3]

ya'll get a CA or FO spot of the Saab?

Both got CA

 

[Crizz]

What are they telling you guys for pay? Do you get FO pay till FED ride?

 

[Flybet3]

What are they telling you guys for pay? Do you get FO pay till FED ride?

I ummmm....forgot to ask that question . The street captain thing is new for them apparently. I really dont know what the plan is. I sure hope to see some captain pay for the begining.

 

[Jonahproject]

Did they tell you guys that you would be getting the Saab or are some of the street CAs going into the jet?

 

[Flybet3]

Did they tell you guys that you would be getting the Saab or are some of the street CAs going into the jet?

So far all SAAB no jets.

 

[Mesabi Miner]

Both got CA

I'd be rolling over in my grave if I were dead. Congrats guys.

 

[bri5150]

I ummmm....forgot to ask that question . The street captain thing is new for them apparently. I really dont know what the plan is. I sure hope to see some captain pay for the begining.

I sure hope you get Captain pay for selfish reasons. Once you guys start class they will have to bump the rest of us in Captain class up to Captain pay!! Woo Hoo!!

 

[captain dad]

Study hard and please FLY SAFE you hotdogs!

Congrats on the new gigs. Don't let them abuse you too much.

Put them boots in auto and leave'em there till, say, June.

 

[Regional4life]

I sure hope you get Captain pay for selfish reasons. Once you guys start class they will have to bump the rest of us in Captain class up to Captain pay!! Woo Hoo!!

Just out of curiosity, didn't your contract at one point read that if a junior pilot was awarded Captain and a more senior pilot could hold it, that those senior pilots would receive Captain pay? If they are hiring street captains that are tacked onto the bottom of the list, wouldn't all FO's then get Captain pay, as strictly based on seniority (not hours), there are FO's senior to those captains?

I must be missing something (or forgetting all the verbage that was in the contract) as I can't ever see that scenario happening.

 

[bri5150]

Just out of curiosity, didn't your contract at one point read that if a junior pilot was awarded Captain and a more senior pilot could hold it, that those senior pilots would receive Captain pay? If they are hiring street captains that are tacked onto the bottom of the list, wouldn't all FO's then get Captain pay, as strictly based on seniority (not hours), there are FO's senior to those captains?

I must be missing something (or forgetting all the verbage that was in the contract) as I can't ever see that scenario happening.

The difference between my situation and the others that haven't been awarded Captain is that they have bypassed it voluntarily, or don't have the time to take the upgrade. I have taken it as quick as possible.

 

[Hulk Hogan]

The FO's senior to the street captians: 1. don't meet atp mins therfore can't hold capt position thus no captain pay. 2. have choosen for whatever reason not to upgrade therefore have not been awarded capt position thus no capt pay. or 3. have bid and been awarded a capt position but have been bypassed in order to keep the jets flying ... these guys will get paid at captain rates once a pilot junior to them becomes cpt. the bypass is for a set amount of time (but I can't remember what the number is ... 120 days maybe). Unfortunatly at this company you aren't paid like a cpt until the fed ride or completion of IOE which ever occurs last. This sucks for multiple reasons but maybe the worst is that, from what I have heard, IOE is running 3-5 weeks after sim ... and we will be paid guarantee at our FO rates. From what I have read and heard, once we start sims we can no longer pick up open time as fo's even though we would still be qualified.

 

[XJohXJ]

You aren't eligible for bypass CA pay unless you are eligible for the CA position (23 years old + ATP mins), and have actually BID for the specific captain position (Domicile + Aircraft). Then if the company chooses to bypass you for someone junior, you will get bypass pay.

If enough eligible pilots aren't bidding for MEM or DTW Saab Captain, then no one is being bypassed.

 

[bri5150]

You aren't eligible for bypass CA pay unless you are eligible for the CA position (23 years old + ATP mins), and have actually BID for the specific captain position (Domicile + Aircraft). Then if the company chooses to bypass you for someone junior, you will get bypass pay.

If enough eligible pilots aren't bidding for MEM or DTW Saab Captain, then no one is being bypassed.

The last two posts are correct, but if these street captains get captain pay right away, there will be someone junior to me making captains pay while I am on FO pay, and I took the upgrade as soon as I could. I am sure this is a moot point, because the company will pay as little as possible for as long as possible.

By the way, congrats on the new job guys!!

 

[SEVEN]

I sure hope you get Captain pay for selfish reasons. Once you guys start class they will have to bump the rest of us in Captain class up to Captain pay!! Woo Hoo!!

Good point. Forgot all about that.