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Joe Patroni

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Odd climbto350 postings (Eagan, MN)
A company called "Gear Up" has two new cryptic postings on climbto350.com. One for part-time 121 ground instructors and the other for part-time 121 simulator instructors. The anticipated start date is March 2006, and it wants the sim instructors to have "ATP with rating in aircraft taught" along with 1000 PIC in the same, but does not describe the type of aircraft one would be teaching!

Any WAGs on what this posting is about, and how it relates to Mesaba and/or NWA?

**thread title is wrong, I meant Eagan MINNESOTA, not Michigan***
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Interesting post taken from another thread. There has been speculation around the spectrum center about the outsourcing of the instructors. The ground school instructors have been told their jobs were secure through February. Full time instructors have been told there will be no training activity per say as of March and that they can expect to go back to the line. Happy New year instructors. Here is your certified letter by mail of your 60 day notice to return to the line. Just like November of 2001.
 
Don't our sim instructors have to come from the seniority list?
 
I think it's a bunch of pilots trying to incorporate CRM to the medical profession. It's about time someone has too, so many mistakes are caused because medical professionals have poor SOP. Probably all of NewCo training will be done at the factory if and when it starts up. Can anyone confir they fired two of the top training guys at XJ and hired a bean counter. You may want to look at that as NewCo indications.
 
Those postings seemed a little too concidental to me, especially with all the fun and games NWA seems to be having these days with their employees.
 
Mesaba management has a knack for getting rid of quality instructors. Along those lines, they should probably get rid of all but one or two of our excellent, present in-house staff...

MM
 
It is related to NWA. Maybe others but I havent heard that yet. It is a group of NWA pilots (I would use their names if the moderators allowed) trying to put a proposal together to outsource instructor jobs at NWA to their company (Gear Up). I will repeat that....a group of NWA pilots trying to take jobs away from their fellow seniority list instructors by "underbidding" them. But, if you want to take their job as a part time instructor with few (if any benefits) I would apply immediatly. People like you are in high demand. And by part time I mean you will only have income when their is training. Unlike the seniority list pilots who fly when their is no training and actually have a real job. And trust me, there are long periods with little or no training at all companies. Outsourcing is the name of the game and even pilots are trying to capitalize on the race to the bottom.

From the Gear Up website:
Gear Up can provide high quality service at reduced cost when compared to doing them "in house."

On a side note... Evidence indicates NEWCO's first pilots will be factory trained if that ever happens.
 
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They just brought the flt ops comptroller in as head of training. According to SK, odds are there will outsourcing of training.
 

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