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Spanjiers is licking his chops on this one...

Bankruptcy profiteering, force employee paycuts, and now the touch of management "incentives."

:puke:


Mesaba execs may split $1M in incentives

Bonuses depend on emerging successfully from bankruptcy

BY SHERYL JEAN

Pioneer Press

Mesaba Airlines' top five officers could share more than $1 million in incentive pay when the regional carrier emerges from bankruptcy, according to a disclosure statement filed Wednesday in court as part of its reorganization plan.

The incentives come a month after Mesaba employees took pay and other cuts totaling 15.8 percent over four years, or possibly longer.

"Nothing in the bankruptcy process has been fair or equitable," said Tom Wychor, chairman of the pilots union at Mesaba. "As we stated many times in court, management did not sign on for the same terms or duration as the employees who make Mesaba fly."

Mesaba spokeswoman Elizabeth Costello said the incentive pay "is an effort to acknowledge their commitment to the company, and their efforts in securing the core business and positioning the company for growth." Mesaba's senior executives "took a cut in their base salaries and declined to take an incentive payout in August 2006," she said.

Mesaba President John Spanjers makes below the industry average: His 2006 total compensation was $193,900 versus 2005 total compensation of $575,661 for Philip Trenary, CEO of rival Pinnacle Airlines, based in Memphis, Tenn., Costello said.

Both Mesaba and Pinnacle fly regional routes for Northwest Airlines. Mesaba flies 50 regional aircraft, connecting passengers from smaller cities to Northwest's airport hubs in Detroit, the Twin Cities and Memphis.

Under Mesaba's incentive plan, Spanjers would reap the biggest bonus — $308,348; William Poerstel, vice president of flight operations, would receive $212,282; and three other vice presidents would receive amounts ranging from $188,843 to $189,904.

The executives must see Mesaba through its bankruptcy process to receive the money, which also is contingent on the management and repayment of the unsecured creditors' claims as soon as possible, Costello said.

Mesaba on Monday filed its reorganization plan, which details Mesaba's sale to Northwest Airlines in exchange for $145 million in claims in Northwest's separate bankruptcy case. Mesaba's creditors committee expects that amount to cover all claims and possibly interest. Mesaba and the committee said in the disclosure statement that the plan allows for a larger repayment than if the company was liquidated.

The disclosure statement revealed that Mesaba will continue to lease its headquarters building in Eagan and that its four directors, including Spanjers, will step down once the company emerges from bankruptcy this spring and becomes a subsidiary of Northwest.

However, other corporate details, such as whether the top officials stay, if there will be any job cuts and the makeup of Mesaba's fleet, remain unclear. Mesaba will iron out such details in the next 60 to 90 days, Costello said.
Mesaba posted a loss of $9 million on revenue of $154.6 million for the six months ended Sept. 30, 2006, according to the statement. Its cash on hand fell to $7.7 million versus $20.7 million as of March 31, 2006.

http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/16538524.htm
 
+1 on the barf.

Pioneer Press said:
Mesaba spokeswoman Elizabeth Costello said the incentive pay "is an effort to acknowledge their commitment to the company,"

Haven't many of the employees been at Mesaba WAY longer than Spanjers? I'd call that commitment.
Pioneer Press said:
"and their efforts in securing the core business and positioning the company for growth."
Didn't they just hire consultants and lawyers to do EVERYTHING?
 
The disclosure statement revealed that Mesaba will continue to lease its headquarters building in Eagan and that its four directors, including Spanjers, will step down once the company emerges from bankruptcy this spring and becomes a subsidiary of Northwest.

However, other corporate details, such as whether the top officials stay, if there will be any job cuts and the makeup of Mesaba's fleet, remain unclear.

Wait, wait, wait - Spongenoodle Pocket Poodle steps down, but does he leave? Or is he just retitled?
 
I just heard that in celebration, Spandex and billy Poerstel will be ordering Pizza and coolaid at the G.O. when the checks come in! My advice to you is do not drink the coolaid!

I think ALPA (ourMEC) should set up a booth at that job fair in atlanta to see how many pilots they are looking to hire....and to let them know how good our company is!
 
1 million pay out seems pretty cheap when you look at what other top mgt of bankrupt companies have made (not that they deserve it). Good news is : ding dong the witch is dead (my guess is xj is finished with this crew) the bad news is, a double wammy in my opinion, 1st a new set of NWA cronies and 2nd 60 - 90 more days of this crap. urgg.
 
The cheap payout might just be insight into NWA's thoughts of ole Johhny boy. Ofcourse when all is said and done they could give him a big chunk of change and then well....darn.
 
So what are they going to tell people at the job fair. "we just took pay cuts, ugrade is running about 8-9 years, and we may have a spot in class for you in 6 to 24 months after we call back our 200+ furloughs" sounds great huh? Yeah I would love to here from someone who goes to this thing. Also it says Compass is will be there. I'd like to here about that one too.
 
The cheap payout might just be insight into NWA's thoughts of ole Johhny boy. Ofcourse when all is said and done they could give him a big chunk of change and then well....darn.

I think Spanjers did EXACTLY what NWA wanted. I would guess that NWA is quite happy with him. Now, they have other people's lives for him to ruin.

He was brought in to handle this sham bankruptcy and squeeze concessions out of the employee groups. Mission accomplished.

Now that NWA has got a cheap labor force with quality people (pilots, FAs, etc.) there is no need for Spanjers sole ability: slowly crush the spirits of all employees using all legal and questionably legal means, thus earning concessions and shedding most of your "senior" (i.e. higher paid) workforce.

I'll bet you he and his cronies are going to be well taken care of by NWA.
 
I'll bet you he and his cronies are going to be well taken care of by NWA.

Thats right, NWA takes care of its executives. Never forget that Spanjers, Bill Pal-Freeman, Tom Schmidt, Steve Holme, Hein Cao, Ruth Timm, Jan Ozello-Wilcox (and others) came from NWA.

Foley was former NWA CFO Mickey Foret's buddy. Bill Poerstel is the only outsider they brought in, but they liked him because he was a known union-buster and a royal a-hole to boot.
 
Mesaba spokeswoman Elizabeth Costello said the incentive pay "is an effort to acknowledge their commitment to the company, and their efforts in securing the core business and positioning the company for growth." Mesaba's senior executives "took a cut in their base salaries and declined to take an incentive payout in August 2006," she said.

http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/16538524.htm

Wow, that's a sacrifice, they delayed a bonus payment for a whole six to eight months. At least it was over the winter so the kids didn't have to suffer though a whole summer without an extra beach house. Think about the children!
 
If the two pilot groups were truly willing to Press To Test while still in Chapter 11, Tom Wychor and Dave Stevens would call a press conference tommorrow and jointly announce a PID for the merger of the two pilot groups. Get the process as far down the road as possible before the final re-org is announced for NWA, Inc.

The creditors and investors, already gun-shy about "Labor Unrest" (especially pilots) would start barking at the NWA Board and management.

The volume of that barking is l-e-v-e-r-a-g-e.

Once the re-org is complete and the corporation has emerged from Chapter 11, the only leverage we'll ever have will come from staffing boo boo's or other management "needs" as the industry rebounds or consolidates.
 
If the two pilot groups were truly willing to Press To Test while still in Chapter 11, Tom Wychor and Dave Stevens would call a press conference tommorrow and jointly announce a PID for the merger of the two pilot groups. Get the process as far down the road as possible before the final re-org is announced for NWA, Inc.

The creditors and investors, already gun-shy about "Labor Unrest" (especially pilots) would start barking at the NWA Board and management.

The volume of that barking is l-e-v-e-r-a-g-e.

Once the re-org is complete and the corporation has emerged from Chapter 11, the only leverage we'll ever have will come from staffing boo boo's or other management "needs" as the industry rebounds or consolidates.

Ahhh.... didn't ASA and CMR try that with DAL? The DAL MEC and the ALPA Executive Council said there wasn't enough "operational integration". What makes Mesaba and NWA different Mark?
 
If the two pilot groups were truly willing to Press To Test while still in Chapter 11, Tom Wychor and Dave Stevens would call a press conference tommorrow and jointly announce a PID for the merger of the two pilot groups. Get the process as far down the road as possible before the final re-org is announced for NWA, Inc.

The creditors and investors, already gun-shy about "Labor Unrest" (especially pilots) would start barking at the NWA Board and management.

The volume of that barking is l-e-v-e-r-a-g-e.

Once the re-org is complete and the corporation has emerged from Chapter 11, the only leverage we'll ever have will come from staffing boo boo's or other management "needs" as the industry rebounds or consolidates.


Boy, that would truly be the only good thing which could come out of this mess. If the managers can have their million dollar payouts, why can't the pilots get the leverage and ultimate benifits of a single list.

If the NWA MEC would back it, that would make the difference between our case and the struggles on the Delta side.

Besides, isn't Prater preaching about unity, and retaking the initiative these days? How about putting some action behind those words, fellas?
 
Of course, because an XJ/NWA PID would be exactly the right thing to do now, ASAP, I would expect it to not happen. ALPA seems to be a grand dissapointment factory these days.

I want to respect and trust my "union"......
I want to respect and trust my "union"......
I want to respect and trust my "union"......

C'mon ALPA do the right thing! I know you have it in you.
 
Of course, because an XJ/NWA PID would be exactly the right thing to do now, ASAP, I would expect it to not happen. ALPA seems to be a grand dissapointment factory these days.

I want to respect and trust my "union"......
I want to respect and trust my "union"......
I want to respect and trust my "union"......

C'mon ALPA do the right thing! I know you have it in you.

XJohXJ, the ASA and CMR MEC's filed a PID after DAL bought them, but the ALPA executive council voted against it. Unless ALPA has seen the light, don't expect much..... Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me......
 
That's the whole point Joe - this one list thing MUST be introduced by the NWA pilots. The next step would have the XJ pilots come on board, then jointly push for this. The NWA pilots control the WHOLE game, from scope to one list. The Airlinks have little or no control over something that NWA pilots would have a vested interest in. Therefore if the Xj pilots or even XJ and Pncl pilots proposed this, without the backing and support from the NWA pilots, it will go nowhere like it did for CMR and ASA.


FO.
 
There we go again, dreaming of positive developments that make sense. That is a pilot's weakness in this business. I'm cynical, and i think the nwa pilots are only using us (holding up the reorganization) to achieve gains in their concessionary deal. They only talk about unity and open channels of communication. Seniority integration? Mgmt. won't want it, and alpa won't expend capital to get it (plus, they have their squadron buddies to think of...)
Flow Through? Fat chance, for the same reasons.
Now go back to your plows, airlinkers. There is no room for you in the Big House. Prepare to be whipsawed, again, with compass.
Why do we stay? Why would any cfi or cargo dog in their right mind come here, when Republic, skywest, are hiring thousands?

Can't believe I'm saying this, but ALPA(nwa and national) SUCKS.
It would be nice for all if I'm wrong....
 
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That's the whole point Joe - this one list thing MUST be introduced by the NWA pilots. The next step would have the XJ pilots come on board, then jointly push for this. The NWA pilots control the WHOLE game, from scope to one list. The Airlinks have little or no control over something that NWA pilots would have a vested interest in. Therefore if the Xj pilots or even XJ and Pncl pilots proposed this, without the backing and support from the NWA pilots, it will go nowhere like it did for CMR and ASA.


FO.


PCL suggested this when we were bought out and a wholly owned subsidiary of NW The NW MEC was almost outraged at the suggestion. Funny thing is most of the captain positions at PCL post 9/11 would have belonged to NW pilots if they had done so. The few NW pilots we took on later went to the bottom of the list as FO's That is why I don't see any integration of lists unless somehow XJ BECOMES COMPASS,,,,,

left field comment, but don't rule that out completely at this point. It almost seems that NW management is scattering diversionary tactics out to keep everyone off balance.
 
Exactly right!

I think Spanjers did EXACTLY what NWA wanted. I would guess that NWA is quite happy with him. Now, they have other people's lives for him to ruin.

He was brought in to handle this sham bankruptcy and squeeze concessions out of the employee groups. Mission accomplished.

Now that NWA has got a cheap labor force with quality people (pilots, FAs, etc.) there is no need for Spanjers sole ability: slowly crush the spirits of all employees using all legal and questionably legal means, thus earning concessions and shedding most of your "senior" (i.e. higher paid) workforce.

I'll bet you he and his cronies are going to be well taken care of by NWA.


Exactly right! I said a few years ago that that's why Johnny Retard was here...seems like the same deal was offered by another Liar to a close personal friend of mine..."All of this I will give you if you fall down and worship me...." Only Johnny took the deal!
 
I repeat... the only way this can get off the ground is if NWA pilots are driving! It didn't work for 9E in the past, because 9E pilots proposed it and there was nothing the NWA pilots found beneficial to them. We have no leverage as Airlinkers in this matter... it must come from the big daddy mainline pilots.


FO
 
Well, according to all the ALPA propaganda, we're supposed to be "taking it back!", and finding a new era of unity and positive career progression.

So, Cap't Prater, and the members of the NWA MEC, how about it? Is ALPA going to put any action into their claims? How about actually doing something to create more true unity? I'd say joining the XJ list to the NWA list would be a unifying action.

And, of course, the NWA guys would call the shots on list integration. We know that. So, how about steping up and doing something to back up the sloganeering?

Otherwise, stop blowing political hot air. It's unbecoming.
 
NWA pilots have the right to the 76 seat jets coming to mesaba. In return you guys get growth.
 
How would list integration affect senior XJ guys? Would they be stapled (only outcome supported by most NWA guys), or would they want DOH??

It's not going to work, why would the big fish in a small pond want to become small fish in a big pond??

Only the junior XJ guys will want this, the feet dragging will continue, unfortunately.

I hope you guys get some good news soon!

On another note:

Is the claim money subject to dues payment? If it is, doesn't it represent a windfall to ALPA? Not flaming, just asking a question.
 
Not going to happen. It's all just an IPO set up. Nothing more.

I wouldn't be wasting any mental energy on worring about it. I would be preparing for the large ERJ growth that is coming around the corner and polishing the resume.
 

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