Mesaba on Friday?

[Longhorn]

Friend of mine (station manager) mentioned that pinnacle has brought backup into MSP (possible gate agents, ground workers etc) and put them into hotels for a potential walkout by some mesaba employees on friday. Does anyone have information on this. Have many friends at both and hope the best for all of them. I am not trying to stir up trouble, just sounds bad if true.

 

[DoinTime]

Thats the funniest thing I have ever heard. PCL can't even staff CSA/ramper positions in its own operation.

 

[flyboyike]

I can see Alitalia sending people over before 9E.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

This is true actually, I'm not going to mention the outstation manager that told my F/O and I this, but they where told that they where going to send some of their employees to cover gates here in MSP. The next day we went to the same outstation and some of the rampers told us that they got the assignment. I don't know if it will be for both MSA and PCL and I didn't ask

 

[XJ-spartacus]

It's absolutely true. The FA's all belong to the same union. If NWA FA's all walk off the job on friday, NWA is affraid that PCL or XJ FA's will "Chaos" in sypathy for their fellow union folks. Managers are also being strategically placed to fire those that create a job action in response to the NWA FA's.

-Spartacus

 

[Longhorn]

Doin Time,
I agree. I was at PCL for 6 years and I thought the same thing. I could not believe what I was hearing. The staffing there has always been bad. No matter what time of year, there was always an excuse for it. That is why I was very suprised when I heard this. The station manager is very reputable and has no reason to make it up...

 

[xjgearbtch]

Mesaba FU friday's a company tradition for over fifty years. Gotta love it.

 

[miles otoole]

Glad they are thinking ahead. It's the customers who pay our salaries, afterall. We can't afford more high value customers fleeing to the competiton because of service interruptions.

 

[OMG7778]

Let em flee, you are assuming that their is brand loyalty anymore, there isnt 5$ makes all the diference even if someone knows that they are going to have a bad experience. #2 You think the average john q public gives a damn one about you guess again my friend. We are in this fight for our selves.

 

[XJohXJ]

Heck, now that Mesaba has furloughed another 100 or so pilots (with more to come on Sept 1), they can't staff themselves anymore. The completion factor is droping off. G*d d*mn XJ management *ssholes.

 

[PCL_128]

Glad they are thinking ahead. It's the customers who pay our salaries, afterall. We can't afford more high value customers fleeing to the competiton because of service interruptions.

Employees don't manage airlines. Management is supposed to. If they don't want to see their revenue stream disappear, then I guess they had better start being reasonable with the flight attendants. Until then, I say STFD!

 

[DoinTime]

It's absolutely true. The FA's all belong to the same union. If NWA FA's all walk off the job on friday, NWA is affraid that PCL or XJ FA's will "Chaos" in sypathy for their fellow union folks. Managers are also being strategically placed to fire those that create a job action in response to the NWA FA's.

-Spartacus

PCL FA's are not a part of the AFA. They will not walk out in support of anyone. A ragtag band of CSAs and rampers will hardly give them any backup if FAs walk out either.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Yea right count on rampies to care, HA HA HA... just like super bowl sunday here in DTW when 60+ didn't show up.... Course neither did I... as it was t-7 days til Mr. Ed's letter took effect I wasn't about to deal with that kind of bs.

 

[405]

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[stearnst]

soinotherwordsfridaywillbeaneffedupmessinthehubsshiftkeyandspacebardiedtonightsorrygreatsomuchforaq
uietdayflyemsafemofosyouknowwhatweshoulddoisjustallcallinsickandshtfdthatllshowemmanagementsux

You take the cake for the most annoying post of the day.

 

[405]

You take the cake for the most annoying post of the day.

Thanks. I'm sick of the comedy this industry is now. It's a joke.
Why take it seriously?

 

[stearnst]

I have no idea. To be perfectly honest, I try to keep track of the politicized, mismanaged, economy-defying mess the industry has found itself in, but it's far too complicated for my simple head. If you took a random pax off the street and tried to expound upon what goes on behind the scenes at some of these companies, they would be amazed. I certainly am.

 

[Lear70]

PCL FA's are not a part of the AFA. They will not walk out in support of anyone. A ragtag band of CSAs and rampers will hardly give them any backup if FAs walk out either.

That's were my money's at.

The PCL F/A's are part of some never-heard-of Allied Paper and Chemical Workers union. They tried to switch to AFA a while back but the movement never gained any real momentum.

Add to that the fact that most of the PCL F/A's are under 25 and have no IDEA what organized labor is all about, and the odds of them walking FOR THEIR OWN CONTRACT, much less in support of anyone's else are pretty minimal.

As far as the station workers go,,, I have no clue. The 9E ground workers just won organization status a year or so ago, but I doubt they're connected with the NWA F/A's in any way, shape, or form, could be wrong (?)

On the other hand, quite a few of the MSA workers are ex-NW from downsized stations and they're disgruntled anyway. Probably wouldn't take much for them just to call in sick when / if the F/A's walk.

I'm sure that's creating a lot of its OWN havoc in the PCL system, those stations were understaffed to begin with, what's happening now that they're taking a couple people away? Even at stations like CHS or CAK where there's only 7-10 TOTAL EMPLOYEES on duty at any given time, robbing 20-30% of your work staff has to be pretty challenging.

Good luck red-tail employees!

 

[Mesabi Miner]

I'll believe this walkout when I see it. Mesaba employees have no reason to walk out this Friday because management hasn't imposed its contract on us yet. A sympathy strike? I tend to think not. Granted, anything to stir up our inept management team is fine with me.

MM

 

[Hulk Hogan]

I think there are plenty of reasons to walk out....just haven't had the proper motivation. As for being fired, most people probably would feel ok with that. Lots talk about quiting but can't stomach it .... but leaving their misery behind because they got fired is a different story. Plus unemployment benefits right!!?? cya

 

[JamesD]

Or they just want to be staffed for all the rebooking that's going to be going on with NWA FA doing CHAOS

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Or they just want to be staffed for all the rebooking that's going to be going on with NWA FA doing CHAOS

Rebooking? All our flights are full to the Max everywhere we go, Not much rebooking space.

 

[ataopsdave]

I flew last week...did a 2 day trip, 10 legs and 3 open seats the whole 2 days and they were all 50 seaters

 

[b19]

Good Luck to all

Good luck to all of you and your families, you deserve a better and brighter future for standing tall. The rest of us flying something bigger actually owe you a debt of gratitude, for not allowing the bottom to fall any further, and thereby drag the rest of this industry even lower. Good luck to you and thanks.