Mesaba going to LAX; SLC Base?

[Ridgeback]

Looking at Deltanet today and it looks as if Mesaba is going to LAX now. It's now possible to go from LGA-LAX all the way on a Mesaba CRJ900. Did some more checking around and best I can tell SLC is going to be FULL of Mesaba CRJ's for the month of January, a buddy mentioned 14, not sure if that means lines of flying or a/c.

Is Mesaba getting a SLC Pilot base?

 

[CptMurf]

Looking at Deltanet today and it looks as if Mesaba is going to LAX now. It's now possible to go from LGA-LAX all the way on a Mesaba CRJ900. Did some more checking around and best I can tell SLC is going to be FULL of Mesaba CRJ's for the month of January, a buddy mentioned 14, not sure if that means lines of flying or a/c.

Is Mesaba getting a SLC Pilot base?

Not quite ridgeback... Check about 3 weeks later. Flying drops back off. There will be a spare parked in slc for that time frame though, per SJ.

 

[snap145]

we would all like to see more west coast flying for you guys to alleviate some of the sting from losing the Saabs and possibly get some furloughs back....

 

[i fly boxes]

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[amcnd]

When does Delta load there computer for February and March schedules?

 

[meyers9163]

Looking at Deltanet today and it looks as if Mesaba is going to LAX now. It's now possible to go from LGA-LAX all the way on a Mesaba CRJ900. Did some more checking around and best I can tell SLC is going to be FULL of Mesaba CRJ's for the month of January, a buddy mentioned 14, not sure if that means lines of flying or a/c.

Is Mesaba getting a SLC Pilot base?

You could not do LGA-LAX due to the rules of the Perimeter.... Pretty much a reason USairways is wanting to get out. The Port Authority is not lifting that anytime soon.

 

[flap operator]

I think what he meant was that with a few stops in the hubs, one could go coast to coast on an XJ 900. This was the case this summer when we flew to Halifax as well as the west coast.

BTW - as far as I noticed... the LAX stuff was some LAX-AUS stuff twice in the month for the Texas game.

We haven't opened a SLC base yet, and we've been flying there since February. Unless DL can give XJ a confirmation that we'll be there long term, mgmt says they're not interested in opening any new bases.

 

[10nCLR]

Looking at Deltanet today and it looks as if Mesaba is going to LAX now. It's now possible to go from LGA-LAX all the way on a Mesaba CRJ900. Did some more checking around and best I can tell SLC is going to be FULL of Mesaba CRJ's for the month of January, a buddy mentioned 14, not sure if that means lines of flying or a/c.

Is Mesaba getting a SLC Pilot base?

Slc dep peak at 21 on Jan 2, 3 and the 4th and then hovers between 7-11 dep for the rest of the month.

SLC- Den, Msp, Mem, Dtw, Aus, Boi, Sfo, Dfw

 

[10nCLR]

When does Delta load there computer for February and March schedules?

Right click anywhere on this page, then select "select all" to lead you to all your answers and more.


Do you have DelNet access? From Homepage go to
Departments dropdown list, then
Network Planning and Revenue Management, then under
Fast Tracks, select
Current Schedule. Scroll to bottom of page until it says 2010 Schedule timeline. Lots of info from top to bottom. Enjoy

 

[amcnd]

Interesting! check MSP of Feb-Mar.. filter the different regionals!! hmmm. and it looks like Mesaba is shrinking alittle in SLC in march also...

 

[cjdriver]

So when do the Slaabs quit coming to Iowa?

 

[General Lee]

You could not do LGA-LAX due to the rules of the Perimeter.... Pretty much a reason USairways is wanting to get out. The Port Authority is not lifting that anytime soon.

That is incorrect. On Saturdays only you can fly LGA to LAX nonstop. I did that in a 757 a few years back when I was flying domestic.

And, it is good to see more Mesaba planes in SLC. Allowing SKW to fly all of the flights is just a bad idea. It is better to mix it up.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[10nCLR]

That is incorrect. On Saturdays only you can fly LGA to LAX nonstop. I did that in a 757 a few years back when I was flying domestic.

And, it is good to see more Mesaba planes in SLC. Allowing SKW to fly all of the flights is just a bad idea. It is better to mix it up.


Bye Bye--General Lee

and why is that? Considering SkyWest has had consistantly good performance numbers out of SLC.

 

[inflightboi175]

shuttle America has started doing ord-slc flights taking some of those flights from skywest

 

[General Lee]

and why is that? Considering SkyWest has had consistantly good performance numbers out of SLC.

Comair did the same thing in CVG, and then had a strike that cost Delta $1 billion. You need to mix it up and not allow one regional control of a base, in case something happens. Although I know one thing, there won't be a strike at SKW, since we all know they will give up anything for growth and more opportunities for larger planes. It is just a given....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[meyers9163]

That is incorrect. On Saturdays only you can fly LGA to LAX nonstop. I did that in a 757 a few years back when I was flying domestic.

I have never heard of such a thing. Just looked over this past year at flights between LGA-LAX on Saturdays.. They have not occured this year. And never have to my knowledge. Thus the reason for the rules. There's not exception on Saturdays to my knowledge (from what I have read and also know).

 

[big shacks]

The Saabs stop flying to Iowa the same day you touch your first Clam......so basically never.

 

[MONKEY]

Comair did the same thing in CVG, and then had a strike that cost Delta $1 billion. You need to mix it up and not allow one regional control of a base, in case something happens. Although I know one thing, there won't be a strike at SKW, since we all know they will give up anything for growth and more opportunities for larger planes. It is just a given....


Bye Bye--General Lee

I thought that SkyWest got the bigger aircraft because YOU voted to allow it. Pot meet Kettle.

 

[xjgearbtch]

Back to original question. Mesaba will never have a base in SLC. All of the regionals are being spread out. Comair is doing a lot of flying out of MSP and DTW. Don't read too much into this flying.

 

[i fly boxes]

Back to original question. Mesaba will never have a base in SLC. All of the regionals are being spread out. Comair is doing a lot of flying out of MSP and DTW. Don't read too much into this flying.

Yes, even Pinnacle will be doing routes out of ATL in the 200 starting in FEB so dont read into it.

 

[amcnd]

So Pinnacle is going to ATL.. SkyWest is going to MSP.. I can see how Mesaba doesnt want to open a SLC base.. It changes every few months!!

 

[General Lee]

I have never heard of such a thing. Just looked over this past year at flights between LGA-LAX on Saturdays.. They have not occured this year. And never have to my knowledge. Thus the reason for the rules. There's not exception on Saturdays to my knowledge (from what I have read and also know).

You are wrong. It started with ATA, flying 757s from LGA to SFO, and onto Hawaii. Actually, any airline can fly on Saturday ONLY from LGA to the West Coast. And, I did fly the flight (we also did LGA to SLC on Saturdays too a few years back). What I thought was crazy was the LGA to LAX nonstop was not that full. You would think people in Manhattan would take advantage of that, but it was about 60% full. That may be a reason it is not flying today.


I went to google and pulled up an Airliners.net discussion about the LGA to LAX flight. I clicked on the line, but it has expired. Look at the date---October, 2006.


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Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

I thought that SkyWest got the bigger aircraft because YOU voted to allow it. Pot meet Kettle.

With the help of the BK judge you mean? Nobody at DL would want larger RJs roaming around except management and the BK judge. Why would we want that again? Luckily, we are at least seeing more 50 seaters going away, and then hopefully more 70 and then 76 seaters. Sorry.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[SEVEN]

With the help of the BK judge you mean? Nobody at DL would want larger RJs roaming around except management and the BK judge. Why would we want that again? Luckily, we are at least seeing more 50 seaters going away, and then hopefully more 70 and then 76 seaters. Sorry.


Bye Bye--General Lee

You are partially right. The 50 seat market is fading away. But the current fleet of efficient 76 seat RJ's currently operated by the DAL feeders will stay around for a while. Anderson will not be parking the 76 seaters anytime soon. Why would he? They are profitable in the right market and routes.

 

[i fly boxes]

You are partially right. The 50 seat market is fading away. But the current fleet of efficient 76 seat RJ's currently operated by the DAL feeders will stay around for a while. Anderson will not be parking the 76 seaters anytime soon. Why would he? They are profitable in the right market and routes.

So is any plane though

 

[General Lee]

You are partially right. The 50 seat market is fading away. But the current fleet of efficient 76 seat RJ's currently operated by the DAL feeders will stay around for a while. Anderson will not be parking the 76 seaters anytime soon. Why would he? They are profitable in the right market and routes.

Okay, we'll start with the 50s and 70s. With our company stronger (than pre-BK), expect stronger scope coming up here. We are tired of RJs clogging up the sky.

Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[johnpeace]

Nobody at DL would want larger RJs roaming around except management and the BK judge.

Good thing it's the guys like you that are actually running the company, huh?

 

[SEVEN]

Okay, we'll start with the 50s and 70s. With our company stronger (than pre-BK), expect stronger scope coming up here. We are tired of RJs clogging up the sky.

Bye Bye---General Lee

You are right. I agree. Way too many RJ's "clogging" up the air. But the puddle jumper/commuter days with props are long gone. The hub and spoke system of an airline network requires smaller aircraft to exist. So it's either a prop or a small jet to complete the job. Delta is getting away from the props so the only alternative is an RJ. With the 50 seaters eventually being phased out, the 76 seater will replace it. There is no getting around flying an aircraft with less than 100 seats. There is a demand for them whether mainline pilots like it or not. The only question is: will the mainline pilots fly them? Probably not.

 

[CRJ puppy]

Perimeter restrictions at LaGuardia are 1500 miles. Saturdays are exempted from the restrictions. Denver was grandfathered in.

DCA perimeter restriction is 1250 miles, with exemptions for Denver, Seattle, Salt Lake, Phoenix and Las Vegas...all with limitations, ie, number of flights, airline etc...(Exemptions were sponsored by John McCain as an aside.)

Hope that helps, though it has nothing to do with the original post.

 

[General Lee]

Good thing it's the guys like you that are actually running the company, huh?

Say what? Do you want more RJs flying around? That means less mainline jobs, and lower pay for the industry. You are a genius.


Bye Bye---General Lee