Mesa-The Anti-Christ of Regionals

[SanJuanPlebe]

Haven't had my dose of "Mesa-bashing" for a while and wanted to make sure I got my "fix."

Remember:

Mesa is the cause of the demise of the airline industry

The Mesa contract is directly responsible for pilot woes at ALL regionals, including:

Allegheny
Piedmont
PSA
Air Wisconsin
ASA
ACA
Skywest
Comair
Express Jet
Mesaba
Bigy Sky
Chatauqua
Express 1
Colgan


Also,

The Mesa Contract has been directly linked to an increase in colon cancer.

The Plebe

 

[KingAirKiddo]

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. Thanks for the replay.

 

[Sphincter Boy]

lol

 

[Stallion]

Nicely put!!

From an angry Mesaba pilot.

 

[BRA]

you guys are bad. pretty funny though.

 

[Machdog1]

This post is great!!! Screw MESA!!

 

[blzr]

I hope it strikes a nerve with you Mesa guys and gals, because it is 100% true. Yall had a chance to stand up for the whole industry and tell J/O to take a flying leap. But that didn't happen, now did it?

P.S. I have jumpseated alot on Mesa, when the planes weren't broke and crews actually showed up to fly, and I don't hold any kind if grudge against any of you personally. From what I have heard, yall are not real happy with Mesa either.

 

[RJPilott]

I dont know how any Mesa pilot that voted yes could look themselves in the mirror let alone wear their ID on the outer most garment.

 

[stillaboo]

I dont know how any Mesa pilot that voted yes could look themselves in the mirror let alone wear their ID on the outer most garment.

Imagine having to be the Mesa guy who voted no, then bid Freedom CA (after the merge, of course) and got it b/c he is one of the super senior guys who should be flying the -900's in the first place (if a mainliner isn't flying them, of course, which is a WHOLE 'nother issue). Now he wears a Freedom badge, and he gets denied jumpseats b/c people see his Freedom badge and think, "oh, he's a sell-out", when he's one of the Freedom fighters!

I doubt he's a happy camper about the whole thing.

-Boo!

 

[Skull-One]

A buddy of mine was talking to a Mesa guy the other day. Said Mesa puke suggested my friend apply for a job. "Are you crazy? Not for what you guys get paid," my friend said.

"Where are you going to go, then?"

"A friend of mine works for Chautauqua," my friend said. "I may got there."

"Chautauqua? I guess they don't like us much over there."

"Well, you guys caved in on a contract or something, so they probably don't."

"Those guys at CHQ are idiots. They're going to get screwed. They're going to go out of business. We [at Mesa] saw the writing on the wall. We were smart. We're going to thrive and everyone else is going to fall by the wayside if they don't open their eyes and jump on board."

My friend said he stifled a laugh and quickly changed the subject.

Unreal....

 

[Cardinal]

Plebe, you're on the right track, but you have some ommisions. Ya'll contrbuted to woes at:

Shuttle America
Trans States
Great Lakes
Commutair

The Mesa contract is also responisble for the extremely high temperatures in Phoenix this month - it's a little dose of hell in advance.

 

[Bluestreaker]

It's funny how the mesa contract passed by 75% or somthing along those lines, But I've never met a mesa guy who has voted yes for it
HMMMM

 

[WSurf]

Funny how mesa guys have there ID's (CLT) shoved in their shirt pockets so nobody knows who they work for. I know they will probably contribute to me losing my job at Piedmont!!! But atleast I can walk around CLT and be proud of what the senior guys at my company worked and fought hard for. And that was a good working contract..

Piedmont (Protecting the Professionalism)

 

[the turtle]

I'll have my mesa badge around my neck when I'm in CLT, this week. Feel free to walk up and say whatever you want....and I will as well.

 

[the turtle]

BTW, the next time you're in the CLT crewroom, instead of sitting at a table with the rest of the Piedmont folks, you are welcome to come over and talk to me, instead of sitting there and giving me dirty looks, thinking the worst.

I'm not your enemy, Seigel and the ridiculous three WO senority lists are.

 

[Machdog1]

Turtle how you voted on your contract will determine if you are the enemy or not!!
Piedmont you are not alone!! Other regionals are with you with the hatred towards MESA, they are a problem that effects all of us.

 

[UpNDownGuy]

This is nothing new for Mesa. I am a former WestAir pilot, and proud of it. We introduced Ornstein and Risley to a word they had never before encountered. The word is "NO!", and prior to buying WestAir, they had never heard it from any of their pilots. "Yes, Mr Risley sir....how high?" "Wax your car? I'll get to it after I finish cutting the headquarters grass". Disgusting. Some things will never change.

 

[FSB99]

i'm sure the mesa had something to do with the massive blackout today, too.

 

[blzr]

Yeah, some Mesa Academaxied into a trany 400hr captain on an ERJ taxied into a transformer at EWR.

It's a good story anyway. (and a bit believable)

 

[MiniMeGotWings]

You guys should look in the mirror

instead of blaming mesa for everthing that is wrong with the world, maybe a collective we should all take a good hard look in the mirror. we as ALPA members dropped the ball a long time ago in regards to scope and where rj's should go. i know as much as air wiskey and comair guys like to talk about how they would like to retire at their respective companies, let's face it, wouldn't they all rather be flying at a major somewhere. ALPA national never thought a little 50 seat rj would ever be a threat to the big boys until it was too late. the answer was to try to protect mainline pilot's routes through scope language, a technique which we have all witnessed doesn't do squat. in a perfect world, all of those rj's should've been flown by mainline pilots at mainline wages and benefits. turboprops should have stayed at the commuters. we would have never even had the term "regional airline" in the first place. what ALPA's scope language did is allowed the commuters to grow into regional airlines at the expense of mainline jobs. had we all insisted that those aircraft go to the majors, that would have meant more jobs for all of us, with more benefits, and a higher quality of life. it wasn't mesa that did this...it was all of us that created this monster. unfortunately mesa saw a new devil arise in the form of JO. he thinks about ways around the system faster than ALPA can stop him. mesa guys saw their jets going elsewhere...(didn't you guys at piedmont used to have dc-9's???) it would've been nice if the mesa guys could've counted on ALPA for support...but why should they. ALPA is the reason this all got started in the first place. i believe that ALPA has its place...at the majors, where it can use its resources to try and protect the compensation and quality of life issues that those before us have worked so hard to capture. but at a regional??? come on...let's be real, ALPA isn't concerned about you. where does the money come from??? mesa? piedmont? allegheny? regional carriers should form a union who has their interests at heart, not the mainline carrier. your 1.95% does nothing to secure your job. remember delta signed an industry leading contract while the comair guys were on strike.
ask any mesa pilot if he or she wouldn't gladly trade in his id for that of any mainline carrier. ask yourself the same question. if we would've all refused to negotiate pay rates for rj's long ago they would've never been brought on the property and many more of us would be in the greener pastures on the other side. mesa was only trying to protect their flying since the rest of us in ALPA screwed things up for everyone years ago. mesa bashing isn't the answer. finding common ground amongst all of the regional carriers is.