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737 Pylt

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So, JO doesn't want to share in the burden...Welcome to the wave of the future scumbag! No more fee for departure, You get paid for what you fly, and when you don't you should get penalized...Let's see just how well you do in Hawaii! Try going it alone without having the majors carry your but! This man should not be allowed to work in the aviation industry. He should be put in the same box with Ichan and Lorenzo!
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By Ted Reed
TheStreet.com Staff Reporter
1/25/2006 3:51 PM EST
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Mesa Air Group (MESA:Nasdaq - commentary - research - Cramer's Take) CEO Jonathan Ornstein said Tuesday that his company will continue to seek new opportunities to fly for major airlines, but has little interest in proposals that ask commuter partners to share in fuel costs, contrary to longstanding industry practice. Ornstein also said during a conference call that Mesa will inaugurate inter-island Hawaii service in April, offering reduced fares aboard 50-seat regional jets.
He acknowledged that the airplanes that will initially fly in Hawaii have relatively high operating costs, but he said Mesa can profit nonetheless. The airline expects to carry not only local passengers, but also connecting passengers, as several major carriers have inquired about code-share opportunities.

"We feel pretty strong that the inter-island business can be profitable for a low-cost carrier," Ornstein said.
To start, Mesa will commit just four to six aircraft to Hawaii, but the number could rise to eight or 10 in the future, and the 50-seaters could be swapped for CRJ 900s, which can seat 90 passengers. Fares won't remain 23% below existing fares indefinitely, he said, although they will remain below current fares over the next three years.
Ornstein wouldn't comment on whether Mesa will respond to a Northwest Airlines (NWACQ:OTC BB - commentary - research - Cramer's Take) solicitation that seeks partners but reportedly asks them to share fuel cost responsibility.
"We're not going to do things we think are high risk," Ornstein said, adding that major carriers are unwilling to take the risk of acquiring new regional jets. "As it becomes harder to finance aircraft, there become fewer and fewer of us who can do it. If we are going to make significant investments in new equipment, we expect reasonable rates of return." His comments came after Mesa said net income fell slightly in the quarter ended Dec. 31, a result of one-time costs related to a debt conversion, one-time gains in the same quarter a year earlier and the transition of aircraft to new operating partners.

Net income was $13 million, or 31 cents a share, in the company's fiscal first quarter. Mesa reported net income of $13.9 million and 32 cents a share for the same period a year earlier. Mesa's shares were down 3 cents to $11.51
Before $600,000 of costs for converting debt to equity and net investment losses of $200,000, the company would have earned $13.8 million, or 32 cents a share, in the most recent quarter.

Analysts polled by Thomson First Call were expecting a profit of 31 cents.
Revenue rose to $58.8 million, up 22%, as Mesa's regional jet fleet increased to 145 aircraft at the end of the year from 132 the year before. The Mesa regional jet fleet includes 38 planes with 86 seat, 15 with 70 seats and 92 jets with 50 seat. Customers include UAL's United (UALAQ:OTC BB - commentary - research - Cramer's Take) with 58 jets, America West with 56, US Airways (LCC:NYSE - commentary - research - Cramer's Take) with 19 and Delta (DALRQ:OTC BB - commentary - research - Cramer's Take) with 12. Mesa also operates 36 turboprops.
 
He also stated elsewhere that his Hawaii operation will be non-union.
Which means good luck getting a jumpseat to or from the mainland!
 
How can money be made on such short flights? I think the longest flight is something like 40 minutes (block time). I've been on Hawaiian and Aloha interisland during the "off" season and at times there may have only been 10 of us on those flights.
 
Thats just what Hawaii needs, more jobs that pay less then a livable wage.

Mesa will have a profound impact on the lives of a lot of people who have made a living at Aloha and Hawaiian. Pay cuts and layoffs on the way. The only ones who will benefit from ornsteins new project are tourists, and they already have plenty of money. Hawaiians don't travel off their islands very often, so you can't say low fares are what they are craving, its for the white people who come over on vacation. Now the vacationers can fly cheaper off the backs of the locals. What a concept.
 
loverobot said:
Hawaiians don't travel off their islands very often, so you can't say low fares are what they are craving, its for the white people who come over on vacation. Now the vacationers can fly cheaper off the backs of the locals. What a concept.

dang crackers :pimp:
 
loverobot said:
Hawaiians don't travel off their islands very often, so you can't say low fares are what they are craving, its for the white people who come over on vacation. Now the vacationers can fly cheaper off the backs of the locals. What a concept.
Check out http://www.gohawaii.com/ Available in seven different languages.
 
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Non Union? No way. Freedom took care of that loophole at Mesa.


No one travels in between the islands because it is rediculously overpriced.

ALoha and Hawaiian have advanced computer reservations systems which will most likely allow them to match the Mesa rate on a few tickets per flight, whils still charging up the boot for the reg and last minute tickets. They'll probably make just as much money as before.
 
Good Luck in Hawaii Jonny O!

I give that Hawaii operation 2 years from "start up to packup" and go home! HA and AQ own inter-island. They always have and always will. :laugh:
 
OB-CPO said:
The Hawaiian Beatdown video. This is an instructional video on the proper way to get a Hawaiian beatdown.

Just substitute the white guy in the water for JO and well, the rest of the video doesnt take much explaining.

Hahahahaha! Mesa pilots will be cleaning public toilets in Hawaii to make ends meet, while Jonny O laughs all the way to the bank.:laugh:
 
Dan Roman said:
He also stated elsewhere that his Hawaii operation will be non-union.

No, for a couple reasons. Scope and the fact that we've already announced domiciles over there. It's Mesa flying, as in Mesa Airlines flying, and that means ALPA.
 
erj-145mech said:
Its only 2400 nm from SFO to HNL, not a big deal.

2400nm at 420kts GS = 5.71hours

At 3000lb/hr =17,142lbs of gas.

The 50 seater holds around 14,500lbs.

No-way it can do it without some kinda Aux tanks.
 
wmuflyguy said:
2400nm at 420kts GS = 5.71hours

At 3000lb/hr =17,142lbs of gas.

The 50 seater holds around 14,500lbs.

No-way it can do it without some kinda Aux tanks.

fuel bladdar problem or intestinal issues? Why arent those shiny RJ's in Hawaii yet?
 
urflyingme?! said:
Non Union? No way. Freedom took care of that loophole at Mesa.

FYI you're incorrect. There was a post on here with a quote from JO I believe. The "loophole" he used is that MAG won't own more than 50% of the new "company", therefore the union won't apply.

Stay on your toes!

~wheelsup
 
FYI- as of last week, Mesa announced a standing bid opening for the Hawaii flying, which equates to ALPA pilots flying the jets. That being said, by the time ops start, anything is possible. If and when it happens, it will go way junior unless it's a TDY posting and I don't see how new-hires can afford to live there on Mesa wages.
 
Slice121 said:
FYI- as of last week, Mesa announced a standing bid opening for the Hawaii flying, which equates to ALPA pilots flying the jets. That being said, by the time ops start, anything is possible. If and when it happens, it will go way junior unless it's a TDY posting and I don't see how new-hires can afford to live there on Mesa wages.

That is good news! I agree about the wages, it will be tough. I have a bud with Eagle that lives with 6 other pilots in a pad in PR...

~wheelsup
 

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