Mesa Question

[Habib]

Not to Flame, honest question,

Are you guy's still bringing people on, running new classes?

Are you taking new airplanes? For Who?

How much of your flying is with US???

Thanks,

 

[xdashdriver]

Yes, we are hiring. 11/29 was the last class....believe the next one will start in Feb. We have the same amount of pilots on the list that we did 9 months ago and several more aircraft. We are taking delivery of CRJ 900 aircraft for America West throughout 2005, about 1 or 2 a month on average. We were getting a few more 200s for US Airways, but I think we're all done with that now. About 35% of our revenue is with US Airways.


Ray

 

[88_MALIBU]

I applied with Mesa and filled out the pilot experience form mailed to me but havent heard anything yet.

 

[flyguy81]

Had an interview in Nov. They said to expect delivery of a jet every 4-6 weeks. There was a class that started on Jan 3, and one that will start on Jan 12. Another class is in the works for Feb. I'm in the pool for the Feb. class....if US Airways doesn't tank.

 

[CitationLover]

Had an interview in Nov. They said to expect delivery of a jet every 4-6 weeks. There was a class that started on Jan 3, and one that will start on Jan 12. Another class is in the works for Feb. I'm in the pool for the Feb. class....if US Airways doesn't tank.

rumor is a february class might be an air midworst class. if they say report to class in wichita i'd come down with the "flu" or something until a jet opens up. however, they might put you in freedom on the beech also (freedom fokkers).

bottom line: keep feeding resumes to dci, coex, eagle, etc.

 

[PHXFLYR]

Any truth to the rumor they are looking for 737 type rated pilots on climbto350.com?


PHXFLYR

 

[xdashdriver]

rumor is a february class might be an air midworst class. if they say report to class in wichita i'd come down with the "flu" or something until a jet opens up. however, they might put you in freedom on the beech also (freedom fokkers).

bottom line: keep feeding resumes to dci, coex, eagle, etc.

Considering they just displaced 50 pilots out of the Beech, and we're losing more flying in the Beech, I would say that you can safely count that one as pure, unadulterated BS. On the other hand, there's lots of attrition too....so a Beech class may not too far into the future, but I sincerely doubt it will be as soon as Feb.

 

[CitationLover]

Considering they just displaced 50 pilots out of the Beech, and we're losing more flying in the Beech, I would say that you can safely count that one as pure, unadulterated BS. On the other hand, there's lots of attrition too....so a Beech class may not too far into the future, but I sincerely doubt it will be as soon as Feb.

my info is from none other than the big eared one himself, TJ, director of training at AMW. it is not unadulterated BS. AMW has lost a ton of FO's over the last six months and a lot of captains have been covering FO shifts.

run away!

 

[Jet Skiing]

my info is from none other than the big eared one himself, TJ, director of training at AMW. it is not unadulterated BS. AMW has lost a ton of FO's over the last six months and a lot of captains have been covering FO shifts.

run away!

TJ, what a tool! Seriously though I was one of the many guys that left AMW in the past 6 months and haven't been happier since. There are a lot of great guys at Mesa, and I wish them best of luck. They have their 10% of sob's just like everyone else, but throw in there the lack of backbone by mgmt at AMW and the crap aircraft at AMW and that made it a bad place.

 

[stall022]

memories of the might beech

AirBigmess never plans anything more then a half a day ahead of time.. many many years ago they called me on friday for a class that started on monday morning in ICT it's always been that way and it always will be that way. My guess is the next few classes that will be run will be high time off the street people incase the upgrades drop below a few months again...that said here's a few things to look forward to on the might 1900D pressurized for your discomfort and safety.


(written by a coex 1900 driver but it fits air midwest)


10) Those wonderful 550am departures from MBS (Saginaw, MI) in the
middle of January.

9) Weather 200 & 1/2. 1 mile out pax opens slider, taps me (FP) on
the shoulder and says, "I really gotta pee bad"

8) "oh . . . you fly the little prop jobs, ehh?"

7) Having a male F/O take a glance at your meat while you piss in a
coffee cup on a long winter flight back from Dulles.

6) While at 15' the #2 prop comes off the governor producing a nice
yaw and you know how the song goes "and the bottom drops
out"...inputting full left rudder to keep the nose straight, 3/4
travel elevator for the save and then...
the jackass in 9C says as he deplanes "you really need to work on
those landings"

5) The ice building up on the wing and trying to decide when to pop
the boots.

Honorable mention: George, the trusty third voice that is heard
occasionally. We thank him for doing his job right.

4.) IAH-HOU-IAH-HOU-IAH-HOU-IAH-HOU (Overnight at the Hobby Hilton),
6am show followed by HOU-IAH-HOU-IAH-HOU-IAH-HOU-IAH .....

3) Standing outside in a torrential downpour, prior to leg number
seven, trying to explain to some a**hole why he cannot carry his six
foot cello on board. Meanwhile, the Captain is inside laughing
uncontrollably.

2) "Oh, I hate these small planes". "Do you hope to become a real
pilot someday?" "Are you old enough to fly this?" and my favorite one
I heard was said about one of our female Beech FO's: "How come the
flight attendant stayed in the cockpit the whole flight?"

1) This was said in the crew room in Cleveland a few years ago:
Brazillia pilot: "Man, did you see that approach? I didn't see a
thing until almost 200 feet!" Beech Pilot: "Yea, that COUPLED
approach must have been a bear!"

Stomping on the floor around row 6 trying to get the flaps to come up.

When the private pilot sitting in 1C says "Hey captain, you were a
little low....I saw the VASI's." And my response...."Good call, too
bad those were the VASI's for 24R, and we landed on 24L."

Also, telling those good looking female passengers, when they ask if
its safe because its sooooo small, that size doesn't matter.

Thanks to all the great Beech pilots I flew with these last 3
years....its was great.

Some other great experiences that we will miss from the Beech:

That cool cabin briefer guy!

I will miss the space shuttle approaches into PIT. I always seemed to
turn final too early after being cleared the VIS 28R, but always
managed to get it down (within 300ft), no matter how much of the seat
the FO chewed up between their cheeks.
that or while checking the props during boarding having a pax ask me
what I was looking for, and answering "Someone has to wind up the
rubberbands"
somehow they didn’t think it was as funny as I.

Calling mx out for the gen that won't come online, only to have them
disengage the starter! (ooohh that hurts)

If you haven't done a nine leg day on the mighty beech...there's a
whole other COEX out there. We shouldn't forget about them.

With utmost respect to Beech Brothers and Sisters past and present!

Coming to a stop in Lansing at the gate with fresh snow on the
ground, putting the props in reverse and giving the ramp guys a nice
snow shower!

Or sitting in Saginaw in winter, first flight and can't even perform
the first flight checks because all the grime in the switches and
knobs is frozen.

Lastly, only having 10 passengers on one of the most turbulent
flights I've ever had, and finding 9 full sick sacks after the flight.

105 degrees with no VCM (air conditioner) and storms everywhere

Coming out to the aircraft during a heavy snow to find that mx had
been there and left the door open (as always).

Having tower tell you that your 90 knots faster than the 737 in front
of you.

Landing 24L and making taxiway W.

As the captain turns east bound off runway 6R and noticing that the
tower controller likes his coffee black.

That look that the captain and FO give each other after hearing "this
aircraft is pressurized for your comfort and safety" for the 7th time
and having it been MEL'd since leg one.

240 knots to the marker.

The respect you get from Beech drivers past and present.

"Guard the horn"

FO: Positive rate
CA: Gear Up
WEEEEEEEE
CA: Punch your window
WEEEEEEEE
FO: What?!?
WEEEEEEE
CA: Punch your **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** window, like this
WEEEERRRRRR
CA: Harder!!
EEEEERRRRRRRUUUP
CA: Thanks.

Always having the memories of being able to fly through a line of
level 6 and be able to trust the radar within 5 feet . It will always
be on my license to play... Ahhh shoot; flaps, nose steering, vcm,
acm, bleed valves, and fuel guages are mel'd lets go!!!

How about having some idiot in the back yell "FIRE!!!!" when the
engine backfired and he starts the evacuation process in MBS on a
nice warm December morning.

Having de-ice fluid run down your back during pre flight because the
out station sprayed the airplane before you arrived

Looking at the stunned face of a ramper when after pulling into 28
Fox (again) the cabin door knocked a lump of ice from the spinner
that was still there after taxi

Having the same ramper hand you the piece of ice from the # 2 spinner

The Venr climb

Throwing 16 switches to get level 2 icing up

Nailing that 200/1/2 approach in the snow

The 7000 foot downwind, "Can you make that jetlink?" If they could
only see our smile

Number ?) Having the (typically) youngest, lowest flight time pilots
get to fly one more leg per day than the other aircraft allow...and
the others DO have autopilots.

Mx favorite line in the logbook "Could not Duplicate"

Two wiper speeds.....Fast and Faster. Letting the FO's taxi.

The Beech community, we always stuck together, see you on the jet.
Look out, the beech guys are coming!!

__________________

The Beech will forever live on in our memories!!

 

[Tooslow]

They won't be flying much for them when US Air goes Chapter 7!

 

[SharkBait2030]

Habib,

Not to flame - honest question: What's with your choice of Avatar?

It seems in poor taste from one aviator to another....

 

[350DRIVER]

Habib,

Not to flame - honest question: What's with your choice of Avatar?

It seems in poor taste from one aviator to another....

I dunno, thought it looked pretty kool!!. Maybe he is just trying to show what happens when a crew doesn't get the aircraft stabilized?!!.

3 5 0

 

[Jet Skiing]

stall022-that is great....even though i only had 600 hours on the 1900, i can say that i did most of those and that is the funniest thing i have ever read. it is definitely a keeper. good luck to you guys at AMW. you guys certainly have the cards stacked against you and most are great guys.

 

[Pukindog]

Was wondering how many airplanes you guys have on the United side. ...also if you are getting more delieveries for the UAL side or are they all done?

 

[CitationLover]

FO: Positive rate
CA: Gear Up
WEEEEEEEE
CA: Punch your window
WEEEEEEEE
FO: What?!?
WEEEEEEE
CA: Punch your **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** window, like this
WEEEERRRRRR
CA: Harder!!
EEEEERRRRRRRUUUP
CA: Thanks.

now that was some good sh!t. every one told i had a story.

this one though reminds me that we figured it out one day that the window, without hitting it, would seal at 3.7psid every time. pretty funny. even though it was loud up front, we asked the person in 1A if they heard anything on climb out and they didn't hear it.

 

[wheelsup]

Had an interview in Nov. They said to expect delivery of a jet every 4-6 weeks. There was a class that started on Jan 3, and one that will start on Jan 12. Another class is in the works for Feb. I'm in the pool for the Feb. class....if US Airways doesn't tank.

I think they've canceled all classes indefinately, and frozen all hiring.

~wheelsup

 

[Cosmo1999]

Just to let you know there is a reason that I have gained about 215 senority numbers upward and there is the same # of pilots on the list as when I started. Actually someone is about to get my senority number. If you can work anywhere else do it. The only reason they are hiring is because of a attrition. There is very little growth left. We get a few more 900s this year and thats it. Expect to sit reserve in some hole like PHL or IAD for a loong time. Thats assuming airways survives. If not then furloughs will be in the large masses but I know of tons of guys that would take the voluntary. I mean what other airline do you have 215 people ahead of you quit in one year. Some have went to SWA and JBLU and Frontier but not that many. Most just walked away and said it aint worth it. Just giving the facts. Good luck with your decision. The guys I have worked with have been great.

 

[BlackPilot628]

I just got the Pilot Experience Form via E-mail as well.

COSMO1999, Are you saying that we should just steer clear of Mesa for the time being?

 

[Cosmo1999]

I am just stating my observations. You should do whatever you think is best for you. Just remember there are many factors to look at when chosing an airline. Will you have to commute, will you eventually be able to get a base where you want to live, projected growth, overall pilot morale, compensation/benefits, etc. etc.... I will just say I did not look as carefully as I should have when deciding an airline so now I have to pay the consequences with a senority loss and starting at the bottom of the list again. Good luck on your decision..

 

[ERJJeff]

sorry to hear Cosmo

Cosmo - sorry to hear you are leaving. I was in your Indoc class and then was sent to the ERJ. It is the same out here - 1 year anniversary and still 30 numbers from holding a line in CLT. I wish you the best - all my CRJ buddies from the West are going to SkyWest. The only advice I can give anybody is if you like to sit at the airport for 12 hours at a time 10-20 days a month - Mesa is the place to be as they will accomadate. BEST OF LUCK BUDDDY

 

[CitationLover]

could be worse....

could have gone to class in ICT and now be based in sh!tholes like: MSS, HON, LIT, etc etc