Mesa Pilots will be informational picketing the Mesa Shareholders meeting in Phoenix on Tuesday Feb 8th from 9am-2pm. Some of the Pilots who are shareholders will be there in person behind close doors to happily voice their concerns to JO with the attendance of shareholders. We are seeking contract comlpiance. Let the games begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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acaTerry
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Mesa pilots ought to picket even if there WAS compliance. You guys may want to express the fact that you have the WORST contract as well. If he stuck it to you with that, and won't even honor it, well maybe the stockholders will be more interested in your side next round.
But then again, they may be a bunch of rich jerks who don't care anyway.
But then again, they may be a bunch of rich jerks who don't care anyway.
Acaterry
Did you guys take pay cuts to fly as FLYI? Do you guys have better than industry standards for the airbus drivers? I don't understand why you ACAterry act like such a kid. We are trying to stick up for ourselves with what lil' we do have in the contract. Then you make fun of it, not support. Who do you think you are? If everything you guys have done has set the bar (not sure how a pay cut would) then you WOULD be in a better position to say something.
What if I told you we were'nt going to picket what would your response be then? I was not here for the last contract vote. I support anything we must do for now and change it in 2007 when it's time for a new one. Am I bad for trying to make changes for the better? You have no problem bashing others but why would I try to bash fellow pilots at other airlines, or wish or hope bad for you?
I bet you don't answer the questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i
Did you guys take pay cuts to fly as FLYI? Do you guys have better than industry standards for the airbus drivers? I don't understand why you ACAterry act like such a kid. We are trying to stick up for ourselves with what lil' we do have in the contract. Then you make fun of it, not support. Who do you think you are? If everything you guys have done has set the bar (not sure how a pay cut would) then you WOULD be in a better position to say something.
What if I told you we were'nt going to picket what would your response be then? I was not here for the last contract vote. I support anything we must do for now and change it in 2007 when it's time for a new one. Am I bad for trying to make changes for the better? You have no problem bashing others but why would I try to bash fellow pilots at other airlines, or wish or hope bad for you?
I bet you don't answer the questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i
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We got great publicity. Here is just one example.
(you have to register to login, but a fake email addy worked for me)
http://www.azfamily.com/index.html?fw=http://www.azfamily.com/index.html?fw=http://www.azfamily.com/
look at "top news video"
(you have to register to login, but a fake email addy worked for me)
http://www.azfamily.com/index.html?fw=http://www.azfamily.com/index.html?fw=http://www.azfamily.com/
look at "top news video"
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Arizona Republic Article on the Picketing Event
Pilots for America West Express and other commuter carriers operated by Phoenix-based Mesa Air Group are locked in a nasty battle with management over what they say are repeated contract violations.
The dispute, involving scheduling problems and other issues, has been brewing for months and will spill out into public view for the first time today. The pilots union is organizing picketing at Mesa's annual shareholders meeting at company headquarters. One banner they made says: "Mesa Executives: Improve Pilot Labor Relations Before Lining Your Pockets. Contract Compliance Now."
Bucking industry trends, rapidly growing Mesa recently reported big gains in quarterly sales and earnings. It was also just named Regional Airline of the Year for the second time. advertisement
Andy Hughes, chairman of the Air Line Pilots Association unit at Mesa, said the airline's nearly 1,700 pilots simply want the company to abide by the terms of a contract in place for nearly two years. He said many provisions have been ignored as the airline has grown dramatically, adding about 60 planes and 600 pilots in less than two years.
Pilots have been asked to work extra shifts, be on call more frequently, work more consecutive days than expected and to cancel vacations, Hughes said.
Mesa management has been preoccupied with growth rather than handling pilot complaints on these contract issues, he said.
"Their mantra is fly it now, grieve it later," he said, referring to the grievance process for contract disputes.
"The pilots have had it. Enough is enough. It's time to live up to this agreement," Hughes said.
Mesa Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Jonathan Ornstein said the company, which also flies as US Airways Express and United Express, has had several meetings with the pilots union since November to resolve the issue. He said Mesa recently proposed a plan to address all but a handful of 111 grievances on the table without lengthy arbitration, but the union turned it down.
"They'd rather go picket," he said.
Hughes said the offer involved resolving only small-dollar cases, those for $100 or $200 each in pay, while taking larger, more costly cases off the table. He also said the offer was a package deal involving unrelated issues.
Ornstein said he offered to ditch the package deal to resolve the grievances.
He said he sees national union politics at work in the union's high-profile campaign. He said ALPA is trying to rankle the pilots because it doesn't want them to support Mesa's desire to add Boeing 737s to its fleet. Currently it operates only smaller, regional jets and turboprops.
"We're a threat to them. They feel we're taking jobs away from mainline (airline) pilots," he said.
Ornstein has traded barbs with Hughes, with each pointing out how much the other earns per year. Ornstein notes that the new contract gave Mesa pilots an average raise of 40 percent. Hughes said the pilots aren't seeking more money. "This is not about negotiating for improvements or anything else," he said. "We just want what we ratified and bargained for last time."
Pilots for America West Express and other commuter carriers operated by Phoenix-based Mesa Air Group are locked in a nasty battle with management over what they say are repeated contract violations.
The dispute, involving scheduling problems and other issues, has been brewing for months and will spill out into public view for the first time today. The pilots union is organizing picketing at Mesa's annual shareholders meeting at company headquarters. One banner they made says: "Mesa Executives: Improve Pilot Labor Relations Before Lining Your Pockets. Contract Compliance Now."
Bucking industry trends, rapidly growing Mesa recently reported big gains in quarterly sales and earnings. It was also just named Regional Airline of the Year for the second time. advertisement
Andy Hughes, chairman of the Air Line Pilots Association unit at Mesa, said the airline's nearly 1,700 pilots simply want the company to abide by the terms of a contract in place for nearly two years. He said many provisions have been ignored as the airline has grown dramatically, adding about 60 planes and 600 pilots in less than two years.
Pilots have been asked to work extra shifts, be on call more frequently, work more consecutive days than expected and to cancel vacations, Hughes said.
Mesa management has been preoccupied with growth rather than handling pilot complaints on these contract issues, he said.
"Their mantra is fly it now, grieve it later," he said, referring to the grievance process for contract disputes.
"The pilots have had it. Enough is enough. It's time to live up to this agreement," Hughes said.
Mesa Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Jonathan Ornstein said the company, which also flies as US Airways Express and United Express, has had several meetings with the pilots union since November to resolve the issue. He said Mesa recently proposed a plan to address all but a handful of 111 grievances on the table without lengthy arbitration, but the union turned it down.
"They'd rather go picket," he said.
Hughes said the offer involved resolving only small-dollar cases, those for $100 or $200 each in pay, while taking larger, more costly cases off the table. He also said the offer was a package deal involving unrelated issues.
Ornstein said he offered to ditch the package deal to resolve the grievances.
He said he sees national union politics at work in the union's high-profile campaign. He said ALPA is trying to rankle the pilots because it doesn't want them to support Mesa's desire to add Boeing 737s to its fleet. Currently it operates only smaller, regional jets and turboprops.
"We're a threat to them. They feel we're taking jobs away from mainline (airline) pilots," he said.
Ornstein has traded barbs with Hughes, with each pointing out how much the other earns per year. Ornstein notes that the new contract gave Mesa pilots an average raise of 40 percent. Hughes said the pilots aren't seeking more money. "This is not about negotiating for improvements or anything else," he said. "We just want what we ratified and bargained for last time."
Jo Is A Liar
The picketing was a success. Plenty of news coverage and a good showing it can always be better. next one will be on the East coast. JO lied about not knowing that the pilots were unhappy and no one had dicussed with him that mgmt. was not comlpying with the contract nor has anyone said anything to him. I was in one of the meetings and recieved many emails from him that totally contradicts his quote. He wants to negotiate with NB's and contract extension for contract Comlpiance. I don't think so what lil of a contract it is,.....It is rightfully ours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Comply is our only focus ...for now!!!!!!!!!1
The picketing was a success. Plenty of news coverage and a good showing it can always be better. next one will be on the East coast. JO lied about not knowing that the pilots were unhappy and no one had dicussed with him that mgmt. was not comlpying with the contract nor has anyone said anything to him. I was in one of the meetings and recieved many emails from him that totally contradicts his quote. He wants to negotiate with NB's and contract extension for contract Comlpiance. I don't think so what lil of a contract it is,.....It is rightfully ours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Comply is our only focus ...for now!!!!!!!!!1
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