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Good job to all you dumba@#es that voted yes. Thanks a lot, morons!
 
enjoy being a comedy-air FO for the next 6 years. I bet your three year FO pay isnt as much as our three year captains pay!
 
Yea, you know what you are talking about. Last upgrade went 1yr 9mos. Enjoy being a friggin moron!
 
Guess no one has had enough of the mesa bashing. I agree it sucks, i didnt vote yes, ornstein was full of **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**, but enough!!! **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** i gotta live with it do you? Are you a pre-strike comair, or post just curious? Did you guys grill eagle this much?
 
Shouldn't those payscales be on the 18 month cycle? I thought the raises were based on that. If that is the case, $33.85 per flight hour is actually 6TH year pay...not 4th. Remember that the "hourly" rate isn't based on actual flight time either. Why work for Mesa as a pilot when the rampers are making more?
 
AWACoff said:
Why work for Mesa as a pilot when the rampers are making more?

I presume it's because 1000 hours of tug time doesn't come close to 1000 hours of jet time. Until pilots at regionals stop treating their airlines like stepping-stones, this trend will unfortunately continue.
 
ATR-DRIVR said:
I would imagine in todays environment very few consider a regional airline a stepping stone to anything.


I would too, but having more than one conversation with some of my friends at various regionals (Mesa included), they say they don't care how much they make because their airline "is not a career airline."

"I just want to build my time to move on, I'll care when I get to the career airline."

"Who cares about what happens at the regional level?"

I've heard all of those, and it's sad, but that attitude still persists. Amazing, isn't it?
 
.....I would too, but having more than one conversation with some of my friends at various regionals (Mesa included), they say they don't care how much they make because their airline "is not a career airline." .....

And never will be as long as people have this attitude. It's all done, so let's let it go so Mesa new-hires don't catch hell over something they had nothing to do with later. Better luck next time....
 
Yeah,
but the rampers are working more than 1000 hours per year. Remember, pilots on 30 seat and smaller equipment can work on the 135 flight time limitations which equals 1200 hours per year. Anyways, overtime is easy to pick up as a ramper. SO...with the average work week of 40hrs x 52...plus overtime. Yeah, the rampers are making the same if not more than some pretty senior pilots EDIT(read: FOs with a significant amount of people junior to them on the seniority list)EDIT at Mesa. Pathetic.
 
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ERJdca said:
....... i gotta live with it do you? Are you a pre-strike comair, or post just curious? Did you guys grill eagle this much?


Your wrong, we do have to live with it when our companies say to us that we cannot get increases in work rules and pay because then we wouldnt be ablt to compete with you! You guys have cheapened the industry.
 
AWACoff said:

"but the rampers are working more than 1000 hours per year. Remember, pilots on 30 seat and smaller equipment can work on the 135 flight time limitations which equals 1200 hours per year. Anyways, overtime is easy to pick up as a ramper. SO...with the average work week of 40hrs x 52...plus overtime. Yeah, the rampers are making the same if not more than some pretty senior pilots at Mesa. Pathetic."

I don't know where you are coming up with your math. The most junior Mesa 50-seat jet captain was hired in February of 2000, that means he has a little more than 3 year seniority and is paid at year 4 rate with new contract: $55.99/hr.
1000 hrs per year --> $ 56,000 per year without counting per-diem.

According to my info, most airlines pay rampers at around $8-12/hr, at $12 * 40hrs * 52weeks = $24,960 per year.

Next time, think before you spit out false info.
 

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