Mesa getting sued by UAL

[ex j-41]

Don't forget alot of pilots won the lottery at Mesa as well.
Quick upgrade, or better yet, direct entry Captains. Get your time then move on
was the Mesa motto. All good things must come to an end.

 

[USCtrojan]

Finally, some facts.

United, Mesa Tussle In Court


Nov 30, 2009

From Aviation Week....

By Darren Shannon

The ongoing saga over United’s contract with Mesa Air for 50-seat regional jet capacity has shifted to the Northern District Court of Illinois over interpretation of a condition the regional operator says allows it to place 10 Bombardier CRJ700s into service for the mainline carrier.
Mesa since 2004 has operated 26 CRJ200s for United Express under a contract that replaced capacity lost with the demise of Atlantic Coast. This agreement, however, expires on April 30, 2010, the same day United terminates another Mesa contract for 10 Bombardier Dash 8-200s based in Denver (DAILY, Nov. 5).
The CRJ200 contract, according to a lawsuit filed by United on Nov. 23, included a clause that allowed Mesa to replace some 50-seaters with CRJ700s for up to 10 years if at least 180 days’ notice was given.
According to evidence submitted by United, Mesa on Oct. 15 proposed replacing 10 CRJ200s with 10 70-seaters, starting Oct. 15, 2010. Mesa said it would operate these aircraft until 2018.
United, however, contends the “swap-out” condition does not allow for a disruption in service, and that any aircraft replacement must be completed by April 30, when Mesa operates its last CRJ200 for Express. After a series of letters between Mesa and United executives, the legacy carrier on Nov. 23 decided to file a suit against the regional arguing that Mesa’s claim “does not comply with the parties’ contract” and that “United may properly decline the 10 [CRJ700s] at issue.”
In a statement to The DAILY, United added, “We are taking action to ensure the original intent of our contract is upheld.”
Mesa Air Chairman CEO Jonathan Ornstein would not comment on the issue, citing the ongoing legal dispute.

Trojan

 

[brokedash]

United, Mesa Tussle In Court


Nov 30, 2009

From Aviation Week....

By Darren Shannon

The ongoing saga over United`s contract with Mesa Air for 50-seat regional jet capacity has shifted to the Northern District Court of Illinois over interpretation of a condition the regional operator says allows it to place 10 Bombardier CRJ700s into service for the mainline carrier.
Mesa since 2004 has operated 26 CRJ200s for United Express under a contract that replaced capacity lost with the demise of Atlantic Coast. This agreement, however, expires on April 30, 2010, the same day United terminates another Mesa contract for 10 Bombardier Dash 8-200s based in Denver (DAILY, Nov. 5).
The CRJ200 contract, according to a lawsuit filed by United on Nov. 23, included a clause that allowed Mesa to replace some 50-seaters with CRJ700s for up to 10 years if at least 180 days` notice was given.
According to evidence submitted by United, Mesa on Oct. 15 proposed replacing 10 CRJ200s with 10 70-seaters, starting Oct. 15, 2010. Mesa said it would operate these aircraft until 2018.
United, however, contends the ``swap-out`` condition does not allow for a disruption in service, and that any aircraft replacement must be completed by April 30, when Mesa operates its last CRJ200 for Express. After a series of letters between Mesa and United executives, the legacy carrier on Nov. 23 decided to file a suit against the regional arguing that Mesa`s claim ``does not comply with the parties` contract`` and that ``United may properly decline the 10 [CRJ700s] at issue.``
In a statement to The DAILY, United added, ``We are taking action to ensure the original intent of our contract is upheld.``
Mesa Air Chairman CEO Jonathan Ornstein would not comment on the issue, citing the ongoing legal dispute.

Trojan

Sounds like JO tried a hail mary pass and failed.

 

[samballs]

United, Mesa Tussle In Court


Nov 30, 2009

From Aviation Week....

By Darren Shannon

The ongoing saga over United’s contract with Mesa Air for 50-seat regional jet capacity has shifted to the Northern District Court of Illinois over interpretation of a condition the regional operator says allows it to place 10 Bombardier CRJ700s into service for the mainline carrier.
Mesa since 2004 has operated 26 CRJ200s for United Express under a contract that replaced capacity lost with the demise of Atlantic Coast. This agreement, however, expires on April 30, 2010, the same day United terminates another Mesa contract for 10 Bombardier Dash 8-200s based in Denver (DAILY, Nov. 5).
The CRJ200 contract, according to a lawsuit filed by United on Nov. 23, included a clause that allowed Mesa to replace some 50-seaters with CRJ700s for up to 10 years if at least 180 days’ notice was given.
According to evidence submitted by United, Mesa on Oct. 15 proposed replacing 10 CRJ200s with 10 70-seaters, starting Oct. 15, 2010. Mesa said it would operate these aircraft until 2018.
United, however, contends the “swap-out” condition does not allow for a disruption in service, and that any aircraft replacement must be completed by April 30, when Mesa operates its last CRJ200 for Express. After a series of letters between Mesa and United executives, the legacy carrier on Nov. 23 decided to file a suit against the regional arguing that Mesa’s claim “does not comply with the parties’ contract” and that “United may properly decline the 10 [CRJ700s] at issue.”
In a statement to The DAILY, United added, “We are taking action to ensure the original intent of our contract is upheld.”
Mesa Air Chairman CEO Jonathan Ornstein would not comment on the issue, citing the ongoing legal dispute.

Trojan

He mut know he lost this one, very other time there in court he spouts off to every paper, for instance all this DL stuff. He was to smart for DL though

 

[CX880]

It's December and Mesa is still alive looks like they're going to pull through on this one again. What a gyp for you guys. JO is GOD.

 

[Minimaniac]

It's December and Mesa is still alive looks like they're going to pull through on this one again. What a gyp for you guys. JO is GOD.

Well, seeing how Mesa does not stand to lose any revenue until April, 2010, I would not expect Mesa to fail at this point.

 

[C17-2CAPT]

Well, seeing how Mesa does not stand to lose any revenue until April, 2010, I would not expect Mesa to fail at this point.

the aircraft are being phased out between now and April. I don't know the structure of the contract, but i imagine they could be losing money as each aircraft is pulled.

 

[CX880]

Well, seeing how Mesa does not stand to lose any revenue until April, 2010, I would not expect Mesa to fail at this point.

But they're not filing BurgerKing either. Yep Mesa has pulled through. Sorry guys, JO is GOD. He's going to pull something out of a hat soon. Wait for it.

 

[Metro752]

But they're not filing BurgerKing either. Yep Mesa has pulled through. Sorry guys, JO is GOD. He's going to pull something out of a hat soon. Wait for it.

Yeah, a Golden Parachute? Were you planning on going to Mesa after GayJizz?

 

[CX880]

Mesa will never die. Look for more flying in 2010.

 

[Metro752]

Mesa will never die. Look for more flying in 2010.

Where are they going to get it from? GayJets?

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Where are they going to get it from? GayJets?

Hope and pray!
Hulas makes JO look like a Jehovahs Witness, and CX is just a cheap farm animal fluffer!
PBR

 

[Lampshade]

here's another take on it.

http://industry.bnet.com/travel/100...-fights-mesa-air-group-over-airplanes-part-i/

 

[pilot22]

DIE MESA DIE PLEASE!!!! No harm to the pilots that work there but put them out of their misery. Let them move on to Pilot Heaven then have to live in misery over especially with their inept union and wonderful new Reserve LOA that is making everyone's life miserable

 

[pdub20s]

here's another take on it.

http://industry.bnet.com/travel/100...-fights-mesa-air-group-over-airplanes-part-i/

I dont see why Mesa's notice isnt valid enough for UAL

 

[olympus593]

I dont see why Mesa's notice isnt valid enough for UAL

Because Mesa suck big hairy goats.

 

[Fltlvls]

All regionals SUCK!!

 

[n757st]

All regionals SUCK!!

Once upon a time there was a regional based in Wisconsin that had pilots flying a -146 making 135 dollars an hour that were home 18 days a month.... That regional at that time did not suck, however nowadays I agree, we are only arguing that some regionals suck less then others.

 

[belchfire]

Once upon a time there was a regional based in Wisconsin that had pilots flying a -146 making 135 dollars an hour that were home 18 days a month.... That regional at that time did not suck, however nowadays I agree, we are only arguing that some regionals suck less then others.

Once upon a time airlines had defined benefit retirements too...now most so called legacy carriers just amount to large, dysfunctional regionals!

 

[hockeypilot44]

I dont see why Mesa's notice isnt valid enough for UAL

Are you still working?