Mesa getting sued by UAL

[F/O]

JO's drowning....

stick a hose in his mouth!!!!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Leave it to JO to steal more chains than he can swim with! I would like to offer him some rocks to stick in his pockets too!
PBR

 

[Rekks Inbound]

While his dissertation may be have somewhat rough around the edges, he is likely correct in his synopsis of the situation. Mesa is financially strapped with no way to secure funding to get the CRJ700's in question. They have gone so far as request loans from direct competitors to secure the aircraft. United may have brought this suit to further cement a dissolution of MAG as a United carrier. The only thing MAG still has of any real value is a lucrative US Air agreement that will be there for quite some time to come. Without it, MAG would have ceased operations only ago.

With no tangible assets, I am surprised they have lasted as long as they have. They have deferred paying for parts for their aircraft and anything else they could push off. Since many have a serious amount of money forcibly invested in MAG, they keep supplying parts to hopefully get their faux investment returned. Once the writing is etched in stone and hanging form the wall, these suppliers will wash their hands and look to recoup some of the lose in bankruptcy courts.

If MESA enters any form of bankruptcy, wouldn't that allow USAir to dissolve their agreement with MESA? Plus, I believe MESA's exclusivity agreement for PHX expires in January 2010. That'll be yet another blow to JO.

Peace.

Rekks

 

[crj567]

You are a jerk and based on your response you leave little doubt that you are ignorant as well. It scares me that you might actually be in command of an aircraft.

Just like he was "in command" of your mom's taco last night!
-Hell's yeah!

 

[Fly2AK]

Mesa sucks always has always will!

 

[ex j-41]

Don't forget alot of pilots won the lottery at Mesa as well.
Quick upgrade, or better yet, direct entry Captains. Get your time then move on
was the Mesa motto. All good things must come to an end.

 

[USCtrojan]

Finally, some facts.

United, Mesa Tussle In Court


Nov 30, 2009

From Aviation Week....

By Darren Shannon

The ongoing saga over United’s contract with Mesa Air for 50-seat regional jet capacity has shifted to the Northern District Court of Illinois over interpretation of a condition the regional operator says allows it to place 10 Bombardier CRJ700s into service for the mainline carrier.
Mesa since 2004 has operated 26 CRJ200s for United Express under a contract that replaced capacity lost with the demise of Atlantic Coast. This agreement, however, expires on April 30, 2010, the same day United terminates another Mesa contract for 10 Bombardier Dash 8-200s based in Denver (DAILY, Nov. 5).
The CRJ200 contract, according to a lawsuit filed by United on Nov. 23, included a clause that allowed Mesa to replace some 50-seaters with CRJ700s for up to 10 years if at least 180 days’ notice was given.
According to evidence submitted by United, Mesa on Oct. 15 proposed replacing 10 CRJ200s with 10 70-seaters, starting Oct. 15, 2010. Mesa said it would operate these aircraft until 2018.
United, however, contends the “swap-out” condition does not allow for a disruption in service, and that any aircraft replacement must be completed by April 30, when Mesa operates its last CRJ200 for Express. After a series of letters between Mesa and United executives, the legacy carrier on Nov. 23 decided to file a suit against the regional arguing that Mesa’s claim “does not comply with the parties’ contract” and that “United may properly decline the 10 [CRJ700s] at issue.”
In a statement to The DAILY, United added, “We are taking action to ensure the original intent of our contract is upheld.”
Mesa Air Chairman CEO Jonathan Ornstein would not comment on the issue, citing the ongoing legal dispute.

Trojan

 

[brokedash]

United, Mesa Tussle In Court


Nov 30, 2009

From Aviation Week....

By Darren Shannon

The ongoing saga over United`s contract with Mesa Air for 50-seat regional jet capacity has shifted to the Northern District Court of Illinois over interpretation of a condition the regional operator says allows it to place 10 Bombardier CRJ700s into service for the mainline carrier.
Mesa since 2004 has operated 26 CRJ200s for United Express under a contract that replaced capacity lost with the demise of Atlantic Coast. This agreement, however, expires on April 30, 2010, the same day United terminates another Mesa contract for 10 Bombardier Dash 8-200s based in Denver (DAILY, Nov. 5).
The CRJ200 contract, according to a lawsuit filed by United on Nov. 23, included a clause that allowed Mesa to replace some 50-seaters with CRJ700s for up to 10 years if at least 180 days` notice was given.
According to evidence submitted by United, Mesa on Oct. 15 proposed replacing 10 CRJ200s with 10 70-seaters, starting Oct. 15, 2010. Mesa said it would operate these aircraft until 2018.
United, however, contends the ``swap-out`` condition does not allow for a disruption in service, and that any aircraft replacement must be completed by April 30, when Mesa operates its last CRJ200 for Express. After a series of letters between Mesa and United executives, the legacy carrier on Nov. 23 decided to file a suit against the regional arguing that Mesa`s claim ``does not comply with the parties` contract`` and that ``United may properly decline the 10 [CRJ700s] at issue.``
In a statement to The DAILY, United added, ``We are taking action to ensure the original intent of our contract is upheld.``
Mesa Air Chairman CEO Jonathan Ornstein would not comment on the issue, citing the ongoing legal dispute.

Trojan

Sounds like JO tried a hail mary pass and failed.

 

[samballs]

United, Mesa Tussle In Court


Nov 30, 2009

From Aviation Week....

By Darren Shannon

The ongoing saga over United’s contract with Mesa Air for 50-seat regional jet capacity has shifted to the Northern District Court of Illinois over interpretation of a condition the regional operator says allows it to place 10 Bombardier CRJ700s into service for the mainline carrier.
Mesa since 2004 has operated 26 CRJ200s for United Express under a contract that replaced capacity lost with the demise of Atlantic Coast. This agreement, however, expires on April 30, 2010, the same day United terminates another Mesa contract for 10 Bombardier Dash 8-200s based in Denver (DAILY, Nov. 5).
The CRJ200 contract, according to a lawsuit filed by United on Nov. 23, included a clause that allowed Mesa to replace some 50-seaters with CRJ700s for up to 10 years if at least 180 days’ notice was given.
According to evidence submitted by United, Mesa on Oct. 15 proposed replacing 10 CRJ200s with 10 70-seaters, starting Oct. 15, 2010. Mesa said it would operate these aircraft until 2018.
United, however, contends the “swap-out” condition does not allow for a disruption in service, and that any aircraft replacement must be completed by April 30, when Mesa operates its last CRJ200 for Express. After a series of letters between Mesa and United executives, the legacy carrier on Nov. 23 decided to file a suit against the regional arguing that Mesa’s claim “does not comply with the parties’ contract” and that “United may properly decline the 10 [CRJ700s] at issue.”
In a statement to The DAILY, United added, “We are taking action to ensure the original intent of our contract is upheld.”
Mesa Air Chairman CEO Jonathan Ornstein would not comment on the issue, citing the ongoing legal dispute.

Trojan

He mut know he lost this one, very other time there in court he spouts off to every paper, for instance all this DL stuff. He was to smart for DL though

 

[CX880]

It's December and Mesa is still alive looks like they're going to pull through on this one again. What a gyp for you guys. JO is GOD.

 

[Minimaniac]

It's December and Mesa is still alive looks like they're going to pull through on this one again. What a gyp for you guys. JO is GOD.

Well, seeing how Mesa does not stand to lose any revenue until April, 2010, I would not expect Mesa to fail at this point.

 

[C17-2CAPT]

Well, seeing how Mesa does not stand to lose any revenue until April, 2010, I would not expect Mesa to fail at this point.

the aircraft are being phased out between now and April. I don't know the structure of the contract, but i imagine they could be losing money as each aircraft is pulled.

 

[CX880]

Well, seeing how Mesa does not stand to lose any revenue until April, 2010, I would not expect Mesa to fail at this point.

But they're not filing BurgerKing either. Yep Mesa has pulled through. Sorry guys, JO is GOD. He's going to pull something out of a hat soon. Wait for it.

 

[Metro752]

But they're not filing BurgerKing either. Yep Mesa has pulled through. Sorry guys, JO is GOD. He's going to pull something out of a hat soon. Wait for it.

Yeah, a Golden Parachute? Were you planning on going to Mesa after GayJizz?

 

[CX880]

Mesa will never die. Look for more flying in 2010.