MESA gets US Airways CRJ700s

[grog_sit_reserv]

Stillaboo is right on this one. ALPA hosed it all a long time ago by treating the regionals as second class citizens.

I admit Mesa is a sh1tty place to work, and we might just blow it by being unprepared for the growth, ok, will probably blow it, but if we pull it off somehow and ALPA still ignores us in 5 years when we go back to the table I'm flying up to Herndon and burning my card.

To those at the WO's I was under the impression that this won't affect your 50 seat orders since the jets Mesa is putting into service were originally for Mid-Atlantic.

I hope I'm right, because its getting old watching Airways dick with you so much.

 

[stillaboo]

"The Embraer 175, which ALPA has already agreed to fly at regional jet pay rates and work rules, seats 76 passengers in a dual configuration, with a maximum gross takeoff weight of 85,517 pounds."
SOURCE US Airways

WHY has ALPA agreed to fly the EMJ 175 at regional jet rates?!

The Jet Blue guys get pissed if you call their new EMJ's "RJ's", and they're right! Their pilots won't fly the EMJ's "at regional jet pay rates and work rules", so why should US guys do it?

Even Orenstein (Mesa's CEO) is laughing at ALPA. An ALPA rep called sending all of MidAtlantic's jets (and jobs) to Mesa "a victory for pilots".

JO's response: "I am generally very competitive - but I don't mind "losing" this match."

Un-freakin'-believable!

-Boo!

 

[DoinTime]

The Jet Blue guys get pissed if you call their new EMJ's "RJ's", and they're right! Their pilots won't fly the EMJ's "at regional jet pay rates and work rules", so why should US guys do it?

David Neilman has said that the pay rates for the EMB190 at Jet Blue will be proportional to the pay rates in the Airbus. This will put them 60-65% of what the Airbus rates are. These ARE regional payscales and their work rules are no better than some of the regional airlines.

 

[stillaboo]

These ARE regional payscales and their work rules are no better than some of the regional airlines.

Really, their 1st year FO pay on the EMR will be the same as say, CMR's (pick another regional if you wish)? Really? Are you sure? Is there a 'Blue guy who can answer this?

Even if they are paid the same and their workrules are the same (which remains to be seen), there's still a difference.

'Blue guys make a living flying. The rest of us fly to make a living. See the difference?

-Boo!

 

[DoinTime]

'Blue guys make a living flying. The rest of us fly to make a living. See the difference?

The only difference is how you perceive yourself.

You obviously perceive yourself as not being worth very much and your new contract shows that.

 

[LearLove]

GOD, will anything good ever happen to Allegheny or PDT? Its just slap in the face/kick in the nuts number 1809036353820034 and counting for us WO guys.

 

[stillaboo]

your new contract shows that.

My contract? You assume things you do not know.

When our assumtions are accurate, so are our conclusions.

-Boo!