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I heard from people there that it's around Jan 08 but people from summer/fall of 07 have already gotten letters for Feb and March 10.
 
Mine is for May. There are guys in my initial class you havent gotten one. Im guessing 1000 is the lucky number. And im just 27 shy
 
I don’t know about the furloughs but the most junior Captain slot went to the most senior pilot of the August 30th 2004 class. He will be on the ERJ in CVG. The Dash-8 in PHX went senior to ERJ. No surprise since PHX is our most senior domicile. The class date for him is in May. That translates into around 6 years to hold Captain by the time he will finish training. Every first officer on property will have at least had an opportunity to have been Captain.

When the ERJs go at the end of the Delta contract (2 years) we will have the U.S. Airways contract looming on the horizon. Air Wisconsin and Republic loaned the money in the merger and we didn’t. They now have controlling interest in U.S. Airways. I think that those two companies will divide up our flying for U.S. Airways in 2013. Long term outlook is bleak in my humble opinion.

That’s my 1 cent worth because I can’t afford 2 cents worth because I work at Mesa.

Hope that this is part of what you were looking for.
 
A-V-8 said:
I don’t know about the furloughs but the most junior Captain slot went to the most senior pilot of the August 30th 2004 class. He will be on the ERJ in CVG. The Dash-8 in PHX went senior to ERJ. No surprise since PHX is our most senior domicile. The class date for him is in May. That translates into around 6 years to hold Captain by the time he will finish training. Every first officer on property will have at least had an opportunity to have been Captain.

When the ERJs go at the end of the Delta contract (2 years) we will have the U.S. Airways contract looming on the horizon. Air Wisconsin and Republic loaned the money in the merger and we didn’t. They now have controlling interest in U.S. Airways. I think that those two companies will divide up our flying for U.S. Airways in 2013. Long term outlook is bleak in my humble opinion.

That’s my 1 cent worth because I can’t afford 2 cents worth because I work at Mesa.

Hope that this is part of what you were looking for.
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So, what about the quick upgrades? Do you guys all feel that Mesa was just a stepping stone now?
 
A-V-8 said:
I don’t know about the furloughs but the most junior Captain slot went to the most senior pilot of the August 30th 2004 class. He will be on the ERJ in CVG. The Dash-8 in PHX went senior to ERJ. No surprise since PHX is our most senior domicile. The class date for him is in May. That translates into around 6 years to hold Captain by the time he will finish training. Every first officer on property will have at least had an opportunity to have been Captain.

When the ERJs go at the end of the Delta contract (2 years) we will have the U.S. Airways contract looming on the horizon. Air Wisconsin and Republic loaned the money in the merger and we didn’t. They now have controlling interest in U.S. Airways. I think that those two companies will divide up our flying for U.S. Airways in 2013. Long term outlook is bleak in my humble opinion.

That’s my 1 cent worth because I can’t afford 2 cents worth because I work at Mesa.

Hope that this is part of what you were looking for.
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If LCC is even still around then. By that time it will probably be gone or have reverted back to the old Airways East and the last vistage of HP, PHX, will be just another dot on the map and a vicitm of LCC costs not being competitive againisit WN.
 
Because Mesa sucks and the best thing to happen to this industry is to see that ankle weight cut lose from the rest of us.
 
OUPilot01 said:
Because Mesa sucks and the best thing to happen to this industry is to see that ankle weight cut lose from the rest of us.
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All this big talk here on FI. I have never heard of anyone confronting any Mesa pilot about anything !!!..I never had anyone walk up to me when i was there and say anything ..BTW you nor anyone else has answered my simple question yet!..I didn't ask why Mesa sucks.Read my post again dumba$$.
 
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Fair enough I have been flying professionally for only Ten Years and I have no problem speaking to you in person. My name is Ben Flanders with ExpressJet and by all means I would love to hear your side of the story. If you can prove how Mesa was an asset to airline pilots I would be more then open to hear it. But we all know what that company has caused this career. Good riddance.
 
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OUPilot01 said:
Fair enough I have been flying professionally for only Ten Years and I have no problem speaking to you in person. My name is Ben Flanders with ExpressJet and by all means I would love to hear your side of the story. If you can prove how Mesa was an asset to airline pilots I would be more then open to hear it. But we all know what that company has caused this career. Good riddance.
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You only know what you have heard and base your opinions from hear say.So me trying to tell you anything about Mesa would be a waste of my time just like here on FI. I'm not saying it was a great place to work.I will pass your name along to my friends that are still there so they can set you straight on some things.And if you have any of those guys on your JS or you are on theirs, which I'm sure you will say that you hope you never have to ask for a JS from a Mesa pilot, but whatever.My advice would be to check your attitude before you screw up a JS agreement or get your a$$ kicked by saying anything about their contract "dragging the industry down" before you get educated.FYI..I'm not saying the contract was the best, but you need to get clued in on the other things besides the contract and why things are the way they are. Calm down and listen.
 
Fltlvls said:
You only know what you have heard and base your opinions from hear say.So me trying to tell you anything about Mesa would be a waste of my time just like here on FI. I'm not saying it was a great place to work.I will pass your name along to my friends that are still there so they can set you straight on some things.And if you have any of those guys on your JS or you are on theirs, which I'm sure you will say that you hope you never have to ask for a JS from a Mesa pilot, but whatever.My advice would be to check your attitude before you screw up a JS agreement or get your a$$ kicked by saying anything about their contract "dragging the industry down" before you get educated.FYI..I'm not saying the contract was the best, but you need to get clued in on the other things besides the contract and why things are the way they are. Calm down and listen.
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Are you really trying to defend your contract? I have met some cool mesa pilots, but none of them will ever defend that crappy contract. BTW, yes, your contract did drag down the industry to an extent. When my company, AWAC, went into concession talks in 2004 we were presented with a mesa contract and told "to keep your flying you will have to match this".....
 
n757st said:
Are you really trying to defend your contract? I have met some cool mesa pilots, but none of them will ever defend that crappy contract. BTW, yes, your contract did drag down the industry to an extent. When my company, AWAC, went into concession talks in 2004 we were presented with a mesa contract and told "to keep your flying you will have to match this".....
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Did I say i was defending it?Once again open your ears and listen .I am not there anymore so why don't you ask a Mesa pilot what their new contract has NOW!!...If you took concessions then that's your problem and therefore you caved into your managements demands.If you know what is in the new contract I would like to know since you seem to know everything about contracts.If you read an ALPA magazine every once in a while you might learn something.But i forgot you don't know how to read. Once again a thread got off topic..NICE!!
 
My first real life encounter with a Mesa pilot was at a ticket counter for a flight I was working, and he walked up saying, verbatim, "Hey I would like to jumpseat with you guys, I work for Mesa, ooops, bad word, if you guys have room."

I just chuckled, and helped him out.

Poor fella.
 
Fltlvls said:
.If you read an ALPA magazine every once in a while you might learn something.!
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People, well besides a UA,Fedex,Delta pilot(ALPA), actually ready that magazine? What a joke. The union tossers probably jerk off to it but for me I almost want to projectile vomit every time I see Praters chin.
 
OUPilot01 said:
Fair enough I have been flying professionally for only Ten Years and I have no problem speaking to you in person. My name is Ben Flanders with ExpressJet and by all means I would love to hear your side of the story. If you can prove how Mesa was an asset to airline pilots I would be more then open to hear it. But we all know what that company has caused this career. Good riddance.
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Ask your senior captains how much they paid to be hired at express jet

As an ex Florida Gulf pilot, we as well as Mesa later on NEVER had to pay to be hired.

FG was paying 14.95 per hour as new hire and Coex was paying 11.95 per hour plus you had to pay 8000 dollars up front.

So gfys


Go b
 
OUPilot01 said:
Fair enough I have been flying professionally for only Ten Years and I have no problem speaking to you in person. My name is Ben Flanders with ExpressJet and by all means I would love to hear your side of the story. If you can prove how Mesa was an asset to airline pilots I would be more then open to hear it. But we all know what that company has caused this career. Good riddance.
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Go to this website www.mesapilots.com and it will answer all your questions regarding the Mesa contract and why things are they way they are.It even has the new contract.FYI..I found this link on Airline Pilot Central under Mesa.Hopefully it will stop some of the crap people are spouting.
 
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OUPilot01 said:
Fair enough I have been flying professionally for only Ten Years and I have no problem speaking to you in person. My name is Ben Flanders with ExpressJet and by all means I would love to hear your side of the story. If you can prove how Mesa was an asset to airline pilots I would be more then open to hear it. But we all know what that company has caused this career. Good riddance.
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Ben,

You are an incredibly arrogant and ignorant ass. You should be caned publicly for your discretions. I sincerely feel a profound sense of pity for you. Why is Express Jet any better? Any facts?
 

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