Mesa D-8

[samballs]

Just saw the dash 8's are gone in august, Will you guys be using other equipment or did you lose the flying? What will happen to the street capts?

 

[MooneyPilot]

Jet Capts Now

 

[jetpig32]

not quite

 

[zonker234]

Gone from where? JFK or PHX?

 

[samballs]

Gone from where? JFK or PHX?

jfk Aug 21 or 31

 

[flypixs]

Next thing you will see is that PDT is getting the old Mesa trash dash 8, and whoop de doo, Piedmont replaced the aging fleet. Mission accomplished.

 

[Soverytired]

Jet Capts Now

Hah! That's funny!

The street captains will go where their seniority will hold. Probably CRJ FO's out of IAD or ORD.


Pretty sure Mesa is trying to get rid of those D8's as fast as they can.

 

[V-1]

As I recall, the Delta RFP awarded Mesa with e-135's to replace the Dash-8's...on an almost one for one basis.

 

[jetpig32]

Hah! That's funny!

The street captains will go where their seniority will hold. Probably CRJ FO's out of IAD or ORD.


Pretty sure Mesa is trying to get rid of those D8's as fast as they can.

A. Most of the street hires will probably give their 1 days notice if moved back into the left seat.

B. Per 23.6.B of the "binding agreement" between MAG ALPA and the scumbag JO, "a pilot displaced from his equiptment due to a one for one substitution of equal paying equipment at his domocile may transition regardless of seniority." The company will use this to their discretion, and interpret the language as "equal paying", being "equal or greater paying". If they see it financialy beneficial, they will open JFK as a ERJ base before completely closing it as a D8 base, and transition captains. This is how Mesa abuses the contract, inpart because it is not clear cut in many respects.

C. Mesa is not trying to get rid of D8's. Rather, Delta is excercising their option to terminate the 2 year contract early due to Mesa ability, or lack there of, to operate to a certain controlable completion percentage. (in the early months of the startup. Recently, it has one of the highest at mesa) If you listen to the shareholders conference call, JO mentions the D8's lease comitment to 2Q FY08. For mesa, be it this is 2Q FY07, thats another year of payments, with an early termination penalty. Expect to see another loss 3Q due to this and fleet rearrangement costs. Point, they would rather find a new home for these D8 then get rid of them, at least until 2Q FY08.

Soverytired, I am not trying to spark a fire with you at all. Just giving my insight on the situation, and how Mesa can make it worse then you all think.

 

[jetpig32]

As I recall, the Delta RFP awarded Mesa with e-135's to replace the Dash-8's...on an almost one for one basis.

Well, 145's. I award you not points, and may god have mercy on you.