Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Friendliest aviation Ccmmunity on the web
  • Modern site for PC's, Phones, Tablets - no 3rd party apps required
  • Ask questions, help others, promote aviation
  • Share the passion for aviation
  • Invite everyone to Flightinfo.com and let's have fun

Member of NWA MEC votes NO to XJ Strike Pay!

Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Modern secure site, no 3rd party apps required
  • Invite your friends
  • Share the passion of aviation
  • Friendliest aviation community on the web
Jezus Christ you guys...

From what I see, two....thats right, two (2) nimrod Northwest reps voted 'NO' V. several hundred others from all carriers who voted 'YES'.

Over 40,000 roll call votes for and 200 or so against.........

Looks like ALPA is supportive of Mesaba in just a bit more than a token amount.

Shame on the two nimrods though....but given the numbers so far....who gives a fu@k?
 
goodto50meters said:
From what I see, two....thats right, two (2) nimrod Northwest reps voted 'NO' V. several hundred others from all carriers who voted 'YES'.

Over 40,000 roll call votes for and 200 or so against.........

Looks like ALPA is supportive of Mesaba in just a bit more than a token amount.

Shame on the two nimrods though....but given the numbers so far....who gives a fu@k?

The rest of the story: The term for the new MSP reps started 5 days before the vote. It was the rep's first time voting on a BOD resolution. He has contacted Wychor and explained his screw-up.
 
Sig said:
That was the best post I've ever read on the subject- thanks!

FWIW, I'm not at XJ, but KY... Piedmont.

Sig,

The best post you've ever read is pure speculation and rhetoric. It is based on indifference and the belief that one group must not care about the other. This kind of thinking is not reason based and pragmatic. It is what the misinformed conjure up to justify thier circumstance with what little information they have....

Sig, if you work for Piedmont you can't be this niave. I gotta believe you have the ability to keep an open mind and read. As a professional pilot I am sure that you don't rely on crewroom rumors, flightdeck fluff and flightinfo paranoia as your info source.

Consider this...

When the regionals or commuters became the new thing at the legacy carriers, the proposal to ALPA might have gone done like this....

"In order to manage our cost we are adding another vendor to service our Brand." XYZ Commuter will fly 19seat turbo props for our Brand."

The ALPA pilots might have replied, that is our flying, we own it. To which management would've countered, "sure.. your pilots can quit mainline and fly there if they want."


The whole premise of starting another airline to serve mainline creates plenty of issues. If mainline pilots operated commuter airplanes from the begininnig, who would they work for? Mainline or the commuter? Who would be their supervisor? Picture a mainline pilot who works for mainline but flies a commuter aircraft. He/she is the only employee that doesn't work for the commuter. Will the FAA even allow a pilot who does work for the certificate holder to operate the aircraft? It could cause alot of discord.

Plenty of regional pilots think they got screwed when the mainline guys simply cut them off at the 50 seat jet line. Maybe.

It is interesting how, now, the mainline guys are moving the 50 seat line to 70 seat. And J4J and pref hiring are reactionary efforts....

Brand Scope has its place, but it still has problems. For example, with regionals that feed multiple carriers, how is a pilot aligned with a Brand? Does he just choose one? Maybe.

Mainline wants to pick and choose who gets to work for them, thus a simple flow thru isn't acceptable. It get more complex when multiple regionals feed different brands and the brand has multiple feeders. (USAIR). It is easier with one feed. (CAL)


Thus the issue is incredibly complex. For a pilot to point to ALPA and say "you guys sux", Says more about the pilot and his lack of understanding of the issues.

To all:
This is your career. Spend some time listening instead of talking. Get informed. No one is consciencously trying to screw another, and if they were could you be the bigger person?

ALPA is a resource not a service.
 
Last edited:
Occam's Razor said:
The rest of the story: The term for the new MSP reps started 5 days before the vote. It was the rep's first time voting on a BOD resolution. He has contacted Wychor and explained his screw-up.


Here is how it went. New rep realizes after voting that everyone can find out how he voted and it isn't private. Oh shiiiiiit!!!! Now everyone knows and hates my backstabing guts he thinks. I better make some calls and tell everyone it was a mistake, I don't know the difference between for and against. Hopefully everyone will buy it. Fingers crossed. :uzi:
 

Latest resources

Back
Top Bottom