Md-90?

[PA-44Typed]

Is an MD-90 the same thing as a B-717?

 

[RiddleMan80]

Is an MD-90 the same thing as a B-717?

No,the MD-90 is a much heavier aircraft. It is more similar to the MD-80 series aircraft where the 717 is similar to the older DC-9 series of aircraft.

I really enjoyed my time flying the MD-90. It's a great airplane and handles very well.

 

[PA-44Typed]

Thanks, one more Q for ya

Does it have the glass like a 717?

 

[PA-44Typed]

Never mind, I answered my own question.
So the real question is why does Embry-riddle use an MD-90 sim with a glass cockpit, and why do they issue an MD-90 type to someone with 500 hours total time? Sounds like a waste of money to me.

 

[bafanguy]

The MD90 is a full EFIS, FMS airplane.

 

[brew3departure]

You can tell all this...

...just from flying the simulator, huh?

No offense, but I'd put a little more stock in a Delta guy or someone who's actually flown the real aircraft. I don't doubt that it is a nice aircraft to fly.

Then again, what do I know...

-brew3

 

[PA-44Typed]

What? not sure where your trying to go, care to explain?

 

[vclean]

We all know sims feel just like the actual aircraft.

I didn't know a sim could fly.

 

[T-Gates]

I think that sim Riddle has now was the one at FSI Long Beach made specifically for Saudia. If it is that one it has a comepletely different cockpit than any other MD-90 out there, except the ones that Saudia flew. They have the MD-11 flight displays, MD-80 FCP, and MD-11 Style Overhead. I think McD called it the MD-90EFD. I got a little stick time in that sime before they moved it. Pretty nice setup.

 

[banned username 2]

I really enjoyed my time flying the MD-90. It's a great airplane and handles very well.

So tell us, just how many of your 500 hours have been spent piloting an MD-90???

Remember flying a sim isn't flying the airplane...

 

[typhoonpilot]

The MD-90 sim at Riddle is from Flight Safety Boeing ( Alteon ) and last housed in the FSI building at the Long Beach airport. It is as T-Gates says, one of a kind built specifically for Saudia. Actually, it is the original design for the MD-90 with 6 glass displays arranged horizontally across the panel. When Delta became the launch customer they wanted a two day transition from the MD-88 so McDonnell Douglas changed it the common version to an EFIS flight deck and overhead more similar to the MD-80 series.

As a former Boeing, Saudia line check airman, and Flight Safety Boeing instructor on the aircraft, both MD-90 and MD-90EFD, I'd be happy to elaborate further but got to go to Rome now.

Typhoonpilot

 

[Thedude]

Yet a new era in the "Riddle Run Around" by giving a 500hr wounder a type.

 

[bigD]

So tell us, just how many of your 500 hours have been spent piloting an MD-90???

Remember flying a sim isn't flying the airplane...

You're a moderator - send that dude's post to the dorky pilot thread!

 

[IFlyGC]

The MD-95 became the B-717.

 

[Flyingdutchman]

You are a CFI? and you don't know what a DC 9 is? .. mmmm, ok...

 

[NJA Capt]

The MD90 is a full EFIS, FMS airplane.

Huh???
The MD90 is 1st gen, (1/2 EFIS). It has EADIs and EHSIs with round dials for AS, ALT, RMI etc.

The A320 and B717 are FULL EFIS.

http://airliners.net/open.file/589490/L/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/598972/M/

 

[BD King]

Yet a new era in the "Riddle Run Around" by giving a 500hr wounder a type.

No kidding. Jesus H. I feel old, and I'm only 58. EFIS? MD-90? Holy cow! Who cares?...........Have we all forgotten how we got here? Do we all still have the same thrill of flight?..............Times have changed, and I know this, but somehow I miss the aroma of the grass runway, the cone of silence on a range leg approach, the transmitter that only has 27 frequencies..........Maybe this should be a new thread.

 

[bigD]

No kidding. Jesus H. I feel old, and I'm only 58. EFIS? MD-90? Holy cow! Who cares?...........Have we all forgotten how we got here? Do we all still have the same thrill of flight?..............Times have changed, and I know this, but somehow I miss the aroma of the grass runway, the cone of silence on a range leg approach, the transmitter that only has 27 frequencies..........Maybe this should be a new thread.

I can't talk about range leg approaches, or 27 frequency transmitters, but it's not forgotten. I watched the sun go down last night over central Texas from 14K', and it was just perfect. I couldn't believe how lucky I was to be doing what I was doing. The experience would be the same whether I was flying a Cessna 150 or a 777.

It's about the flying. Not the avionics or the type of fuel we burn. The flying. I admit that I sometimes lose sight of that, but it only takes one night like last night to put it all back in perspective.

 

[FracCapt]

Never mind, I answered my own question.
So the real question is why does Embry-riddle use an MD-90 sim with a glass cockpit, and why do they issue an MD-90 type to someone with 500 hours total time? Sounds like a waste of money to me.

It's a marketing gimmick. They claim it will prove to prospective employers that the pilot is up to "airline standards". Oh, and it's not an MD-90 type...it's a DC-9 type(which encompasses the MD80 and MD90 series, DC9, and 717).

 

[cessna_driver2]

I can't talk about range leg approaches, or 27 frequency transmitters, but it's not forgotten. I watched the sun go down last night over central Texas from 14K', and it was just perfect. I couldn't believe how lucky I was to be doing what I was doing. The experience would be the same whether I was flying a Cessna 150 or a 777.

It's about the flying. Not the avionics or the type of fuel we burn. The flying. I admit that I sometimes lose sight of that, but it only takes one night like last night to put it all back in perspective.

Amen.

Nuff said.

 

[BD King]

I can't talk about range leg approaches, or 27 frequency transmitters, but it's not forgotten. I watched the sun go down last night over central Texas from 14K', and it was just perfect. I couldn't believe how lucky I was to be doing what I was doing. The experience would be the same whether I was flying a Cessna 150 or a 777.

It's about the flying. Not the avionics or the type of fuel we burn. The flying. I admit that I sometimes lose sight of that, but it only takes one night like last night to put it all back in perspective.

EL CORRECTO .............It is about the flying. Flying is a way of life. It is who you are. The equipment is bullsh$t. ...............Amongst others, I remember one day in an old twin beech (old and twin beech are redundent) weaving among the tops of some building cu's. The tops touched hands and turned golden with the sun. A tunnel. Flew through the tunnel. ...............Screw the EFIS.

 

[banned username 2]

It's about the flying. Not the avionics or the type of fuel we burn. The flying.

WHOA DOGGIE!!!! I thought it was about the BBQ!?!?!?!

This flying thing is merely a means of getting you to the next BBQ place!!!

 

[BD King]

WHOA DOGGIE!!!! I thought it was about the BBQ!?!?!?!

This flying thing is merely a means of getting you to the next BBQ place!!!

Interesting. THis is contrary to your signature. Your signature has a flavor of truth.

 

[FracCapt]

I watched the sun go down last night over central Texas from 14K', and it was just perfect. I couldn't believe how lucky I was to be doing what I was doing.

Got ya beat there....last night, I watched the sun go down in Florida....with good friends....from a lounge chair....beer in hand(and a few more in the belly)....and the steaks almost done on the BBQ...

The flying is great...but there are definitely things I would rather be doing much of the time..

 

[bigD]

Interesting. THis is contrary to your signature. Your signature has a flavor of truth.

Nah....FalconCapt understands. He just needs to get that tri-holer of his to Austin for some BBQ in Llano!

 

[FracCapt]

This flying thing is merely a means of getting you to the next BBQ place!!!

Don't forget the beer! There are lots of local microbrews at some of those BBQ places!

 

[bigD]

Got ya beat there....last night, I watched the sun go down in Florida....with good friends....from a lounge chair....beer in hand(and a few more in the belly)....and the steaks almost done on the BBQ...

The flying is great...but there are definitely things I would rather be doing much of the time..

True that FracCapt - but as much as I like drinking beer from a lounge chair, I don't get paid while doing it! If I'm gonna do something to put money in my pocket, it might as well be flying an airplane.

 

[AFELLOWAVIATOR]

I can't talk about range leg approaches, or 27 frequency transmitters, but it's not forgotten. I watched the sun go down last night over central Texas from 14K', and it was just perfect. I couldn't believe how lucky I was to be doing what I was doing. The experience would be the same whether I was flying a Cessna 150 or a 777.

It's about the flying. Not the avionics or the type of fuel we burn. The flying. I admit that I sometimes lose sight of that, but it only takes one night like last night to put it all back in perspective.

Tell me Johnny, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?



Yea, I can see you now. Just kiddin. I'm with you. My Dad flew in the 40's and talks about that stuff some times. It was a diff. time.

 

[bafanguy]

NJ,

OK...if the hair-splitting definition of "full" is all that critical to this discussion, you are correct. The MD90( and -88) do have some round flight instruments. But, for the purposes of the original question...close enough. It didn't seem the kid didn't want a "full" ground school dissertation, but rather just the gist of it.

Huh???
The MD90 is 1st gen, (1/2 EFIS). It has EADIs and EHSIs with round dials for AS, ALT, RMI etc.

The A320 and B717 are FULL EFIS.

http://airliners.net/open.file/589490/L/

http://airliners.net/open.file/589490/L/

 

[NJA Capt]

...hair-splitting definition
...the kid didn't want a...ground school dissertation, but rather just the gist of it.

And a page of responses about BBQ was related to the original question?
Lighten up.
Since when are 3 sentences and a link a dissertation?

And if it matters....My favorite past time is taking my son out in our taildragger to a BBQ restaurant on a 2000' grass strip.