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Airline Seating Policy 'Demonizes' Men
By Patrick Goodenough
CNSNews.com International Editor
November 29, 2005

(CNSNews.com) - Two airlines "down under" are under fire after acknowledging their policy of not allowing an unaccompanied child passenger to sit next to a man.

The policy emerged when a New Zealand man said he was asked by airline staff to move because an unaccompanied minor had been assigned the seat next to him.

Mark Worsley was told to swap seats with a woman sitting nearby, who then moved into the seat next to the boy, about eight years old, for the 80-minute flight.

"I was pretty shocked -- I think most people would be," the 37-year-old shipping manager and father of two said Tuesday.

"I complied straight away and moved seats. But as I sat on the plane during the flight I got more and more angry about it."

Part of the problem, Worsley said, was that the plane was full. When the flight attendant arranged the seat swap, "certainly there was enough disruption that people in the immediate vicinity would have heard what was going on. I felt totally embarrassed."

He had later confronted the airline staff, who confirmed the company policy.

Worsley said someone asked him after the event why he had not simply refused to move. "But these days you can't really do that. With [fears of] terrorism, if you cause any fuss on the plane you're out walking."

"Most males in the world, I'm sure, are perfectly law-abiding, good parents, good fathers, brothers, whatever," he said. "They're basically accusing half the population of the world of being a potential pedophile."

Worsley had been traveling on a flight operated by Qantas, the Australian national carrier. Both Qantas and Air New Zealand have now confirmed that they would not seat a child traveling alone next to an adult male passenger.

Worsley came forward following the recent decision by New Zealand's opposition National Party to name one of its lawmakers, Wayne Mapp, as a spokesman on eradicating "political correctness."

Mapp, whose appointment to the post drew ridicule from the left, has invited New Zealanders to come forward with information about practices they perceive to be "PC," primarily those carried out by the Labor government.

Worsley was one of those who had approached him.

Mapp said the airline policy implied that children were not safe sitting next to men.

He found rare common ground with a left-leaning lawmaker, Keith Locke of the Green Party, who said Tuesday that airlines should recognize that "men are people too."

Decrying what he called "the moral panic about men being a potential threat to children," Locke said it was "prejudicial to presume that men can't be trusted to have contact with children unless they are related to them or are specially trained."

He said the incident clearly is a breach of New Zealand's Human Rights Act -- which prohibits discrimination on the grounds of gender -- and he asked a government human rights commissioner to investigate.

Some of the Green Party's policies occasionally have been labeled "politically correct" by conservative critics.

Locke said he was glad the National Party's "PC eradicator" had come out against the airline policy, but he argued that it was wrong to call it political correctness.

"The anti-PC brigade usually criticize what they see as an overemphasis on equal rights, including between the genders. The Greens are sometimes the target of their attacks, so I'm glad to see them supporting equal rights in this case," he said.

'Distrust'

The airlines did win support from one quarter. Children's Commissioner Cindy Kiro, a government appointee, commended Qantas and Air New Zealand for their efforts to keep child passengers safe.

Kiro said she doubted the policy was meant as a slur against men.

But her intervention drew a strong response from the Men's Coalition, whose spokesman Kerry Bevin said Tuesday the commissioner was not fit for her post and should resign.

"Kiro is telling our children that men are dangerous to children," Bevin charged. He also called for the airlines to make a public apology.

For Worsley, the incident was part of a far broader problem, which seemed to affect Western countries in general, he said.

"Men are being demonized in the media for a long time now. I think probably this is just society's reaction -- they think, 'We'd better start tightening up on everything.' It's getting to the stage when all men are viewed with distrust," he said.

"They've already chased men out of the teaching profession, especially for young children. I wouldn't want to be a Scoutmaster now. I wouldn't want to be a Catholic priest ..."
 
Wow. And I thought we had problems. Seriously, don't they have better things to worry about?

To add to the argument, however, the fact is that men are probably a million more times likely to be pedophiles than women (aside Marykay Letourneau). How often do you hear about a kid being snatched by a pervert-lady? If I were a six-year-old travelling by myself I think I would be more comfortable next to a nice old lady rather than some dude with bad hair and halitosis. Hell, if it were my kid I would welcome that policy.
 
If that is the airline's policy....isn't it their fault for assigning those seats in the first place?? That aside, I have to agree with Global33's theory, but it's still a ridiculous rule.
 
why the fark is a 6 or 8 year old travelling alone?!!?!?!
 
why the Frick is a 6 or 8 year old travelling alone?!!?!?!

Divorced parents seems to be the most common reason. Unaccompanied Minors travel all the time, it's really nothing unusual.:)
 
Global33 said:
If I were a six-year-old travelling by myself I think I would be more comfortable next to a nice old lady rather than some dude with bad hair and halitosis. Hell, if it were my kid I would welcome that policy.

How about a nice older man in a suit and tie vs. a stereotypical white trash fat woman?
 
Global33 said:
Divorced parents seems to be the most common reason. Unaccompanied Minors travel all the time, it's really nothing unusual.:)
sure, i get this. it makes sense for a child older than 12 to travel alone. but to leave your kid, at age 8, at the mercy of him/herself and the airlines? are you out of your mind (you in the general sense, not YOU, global :))?
 
Just to clarify the procedure for unaccompanied minors, when a parent or guardian drops them off at the airport, they are turned over to an airline employee who is responsible for watching their every move until they board the aircraft. That child is then the responsibility of the flight crew. When the child gets to the destination, they are then turned over to another airline employee and remain with them until the other parent or guardian picks them up. Its not like their parents check them in at the terminal and just send them on their way alone.
 
What exactly is a pedophile going to do on the aircraft? It's not like he's going to steal the kid and jump off the plane while it's in the air...
 
Not true. I helped coach a guy who had a situation on his AC where a guy threatened and then molested an unaccompanied minor (who looked and acted considerably older). He sat next to her (probably 14-15 years old but again--could pass for 17/18ish), put a blanket over them, and groped her while kissing her. FA noticed and told captain who told him to approach "couple" and tell them to knock it off. On further investigation it became apparent girl was threatened into cooperation. Good news is they got kid away from the guy and some very heavy handed cops were waiting at plane to cart said cretin to jail upon landing.

I have 3 daughters. My daughter was 10 when she flew to AK to join me where I was on a TDY. At the end of the TDY we spent a couple weeks running around AK camping and RVing. I put her on NWA as an unaccompanied minor and she was treated like a rock star and loved it. So--I certainly would appreciate a proactive approach to keep kids safe while traveling. If someone asks me to give up my seat so a kid can sit next to a female, I won't be offended--I'll be glad they are looking out for kids.
 

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