Makes me sick!

[MCDU]

The Nicolau award integrates the bottom AWA pilot hired on 4/4/05, senior to all US Airways pilots who were actively flying EMB Aircraft under the ALPA US Airways CBA. Arbitrator Nicolau’s opinion incorrectly states that the US Airways Merger Committee’s Certified list shows these pilots as furloughed. This placed the AWA pilot hired on 4/4/05 senior to the AAA pilot hired on 7/18/88, who and had never been furloughed.

 

[ferlo]

The Nicolau award integrates the bottom AWA pilot hired on 4/4/05, senior to all US Airways pilots who were actively flying EMB Aircraft under the ALPA US Airways CBA. Arbitrator Nicolau’s opinion incorrectly states that the US Airways Merger Committee’s Certified list shows these pilots as furloughed. This placed the AWA pilot hired on 4/4/05 senior to the AAA pilot hired on 7/18/88, who and had never been furloughed.

Welcome back to planet Earth!!!

(BTW it's called relative seniority...fair, no matter how you look at it)

 

[erjdude]

MCDU,

The AAA pilots that flew the EMB were furloughed! They were furloughed and then agreed to take a position at a SEPERATE company called midatlantic. This company was seperate in every manner except the operating certificate (which they were actively working to get). This process was delayed and as an intermediate solution midatlantic used the airways cert.

You know this and you know that is why NIC ruled the way he did for those and all furloughed mainline pilots.

If your MEC had just tried to neg. instead of insisting on DOH DOH DOH I know you and all AAA pilots would have gotten a better deal.

 

[nwaredtail]

I wonder if the AAA guys know just how little support they have industry wide. Everyone may be saying to their faces "yeah, I agree", "that sucks", but everyone who knows anything about this award knows they got what they deserved.

Let's call it payback for giving all your narrowbody flying away to save the pension. THATS WHY THEIR ARE ANY PILOTS AT MDA TO BEGIN WITH.

"We want date of hire"
-come up with something else
"no, DOH only and arbitration"
-binding 'arbitrator' -come up with something else
"no, DOH"
- Nicalau award.
"we don't like it, we're gonna quit ALPA"

Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.

 

[Fly4hire]

Redtail, you hit the nail on the head!!

Let's not forget that both sides agreed to binding arbitration.

It's not binding if you get to challenge the outcome you don't like. Worse yet if you are allowed to challenge the NIC award that you agreed to submit to you have totally s*****d every future merger integration in this industry to who ever has the best attorney's and wins the lawsuit prevails.

That will surely result in integration inequities far in excess of the NIC.

 

[The Victors]

Welcome back to planet Earth!!!

(BTW it's called relative seniority...fair, no matter how you look at it)

you guys are out of your mind if you think stapling 1700+ guys to the bottom of the list is fair.

 

[ironspud]

you guys are out of your mind if you think stapling 1700+ guys to the bottom of the list is fair.

You're out of your mind if you think 1700+ unemployed's should even be on a list, much less "above" anybody.

Noone out here in the "real" world supports the Easties as long as they stick with the DOH mantra.

 

[Andy]

You're out of your mind if you think 1700+ unemployed's should even be on a list, much less "above" anybody.

Noone out here in the "real" world supports the Easties as long as they stick with the DOH mantra.

WTF? Is the world about to end? I actually agree with ironspud.

 

[nwaredtail]

you mean the 1700 that were on the bottom of AAA's list, at a separate company (MDA) or furloughed? Yup out of our minds.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Simpsons did it...