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Andy

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As citizens, we have have the opportunity to voice our opinions on election day. We all have different 'hot button' issues. While I don't expect anyone to decide how to vote on a single issue, we all need to weigh our decisions.
For pilots, one of the 'hot button' issues is the age 60 rule. Here is a post from another board:


Here's some interesting news regarding the dreaded age 60 legislation from CAL ALPA's Congressional Liason via the ACP in EWR:

I have gotten some new information about the age 65 legislation from Mike Coffield who is our Congressional Liaison and very knowledgeable of the inner workings of Congress. There has been much speculation that on Nov 23rd that Congress would approve the age 65 legislation. I was one of those who was under that impression. But according to Mike, the amendment is only attached to the Senate bill which is attached to the Transportation Funding Legislation. It is not a part of the House version of the bill. If it passes the Senate, it would have to go back to committee for a compromise bill which could eliminate the age 65 legislation or even rewrite the whole bill. His feeling is that if it passes that it would not be until about the summer of 2007 before it will be in place. The FAA has already established an ARC (Rule Change Committee) to determine if the rule is to be changed exactly how it would be worded. It is very unusual for this committee to meet before being directed by Congress which has led many (including myself) to believe that they were shooting for a Nov 23 implementation date. The significance of Nov 23 is that is when ICAO starts allowing age 65 pilots to fly worldwide, including flying into the US. There has been some pressure on Congress to give our pilots the same right. However the ARC which is attempting to put together the new ruling (if it comes to pass) has not been making much progress, in fact there have been heated discussions and they are not even remotely close to any agreement.
Then there is the political side of the Issue. If the Republicans can keep control of the House, Mike feels that the legislation will pass and be implemented next summer. If the Democrats win control of the House, then all the Committee Chairs will change and this legislation will be pushed back and probably tabled to a later date, perhaps some time next year. So as you can see, there is more uncertainty to the passage of this bill than was originally thought. I will keep you posted as more information becomes available.




For those who want a change in the age 60 rule, I recommend that you consider voting GOP. For those who want the age 60 rule to stay in place, I recommend that you consider voting Dem. Whatever you do, vote.
 
Vote against the incumbents! This whole Congress needs to be given the boot. Democrat or Republican, doesn't matter.
 
....and which party is going to give you this incredible sense of security, a top notch health care program, preserve our social security, and improve our education system?

Republicans? Democrats? hahahahaha. Riiiiiight.
 
For those who want a change in the age 60 rule, I recommend that you consider voting GOP. For those who want the age 60 rule to stay in place, I recommend that you consider voting Dem. Whatever you do, vote.

Single issue voting is a dumb idea. Even though changing the retirement age might be a worthwhile idea the thought of voting for people who would like to break up unions and outsource flying to Chinese airlines seems counterproductive.
 
Single issue voting is a dumb idea.

I agree, which is why I wrote in the third sentence of my post:

Andy said:
While I don't expect anyone to decide how to vote on a single issue, we all need to weigh our decisions.



And just to be perfectly clear, I strongly oppose any change to the age 60 rule. However, I believe that everyone should vote. I'd just prefer people to be informed rather than voting blindly.
 
I think it's sad that pilots vote with their wallets. There's so much more in life than pay and taxes.

The government's size had tripled and our national debt has quadrupled under GOP leadership. Meanwhile, our healthcare system is in disarray to the point that people spend their life savings if they get a major illness, and our childrens test sores are far behind the rest of the industrialized world.

Yet pilots vote GOP because their preachers told them the GOP supports "moral values" and their daddies told them the Dems are a bunch of pinko commies that want to raise taxes and increase welfare.

Get the facts and vote for what's best for this country. Ask yourself if you're better off now than you were 6 years ago. It's time for a change.
 
I think it's sad that pilots vote with their wallets. There's so much more in life than pay and taxes.

The government's size had tripled and our national debt has quadrupled under GOP leadership. Meanwhile, our healthcare system is in disarray to the point that people spend their life savings if they get a major illness, and our childrens test sores are far behind the rest of the industrialized world.

Yet pilots vote GOP because their preachers told them the GOP supports "moral values" and their daddies told them the Dems are a bunch of pinko commies that want to raise taxes and increase welfare.

Get the facts and vote for what's best for this country. Ask yourself if you're better off now than you were 6 years ago. It's time for a change.

Yeah, all that might be true, but I prefer to get ass-raped by (R)'s, not (D)'s.

It's a personal choice (D's are pro-choice, right?) and my personal "preference" (D's love "preference", no matter how . . no better IF totally gay).

Seriously, the (R)'s might suck A$$, but the (D)'s scare me to death. No doubt your superior moral compass which is guided by . . oh, whatever you feel like, disagrees, you condesending SOB.

("preachers and daddies", PUH-LEASE)
 
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Osama Bin Laden has endorsed the Democratic party in 2006 for those who are still undecided

I'm glad you're going to let rhetoric like that sway your vote. That's what's wrong with America.

And tell us, did you interview Osama personally or are you going on what you heard Sean Hannity say on Fox News?
 
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As citizens, we have have the opportunity to voice our opinions on election day. We all have different 'hot button' issues. While I don't expect anyone to decide how to vote on a single issue, we all need to weigh our decisions.
For pilots, one of the 'hot button' issues is the age 60 rule. Here is a post from another board:

Here's some interesting news regarding the dreaded age 60 legislation from CAL ALPA's Congressional Liason via the ACP in EWR:

I have gotten some new information about the age 65 legislation from Mike Coffield who is our Congressional Liaison and very knowledgeable of the inner workings of Congress. There has been much speculation that on Nov 23rd that Congress would approve the age 65 legislation. I was one of those who was under that impression. But according to Mike, the amendment is only attached to the Senate bill which is attached to the Transportation Funding Legislation. It is not a part of the House version of the bill. If it passes the Senate, it would have to go back to committee for a compromise bill which could eliminate the age 65 legislation or even rewrite the whole bill. His feeling is that if it passes that it would not be until about the summer of 2007 before it will be in place. The FAA has already established an ARC (Rule Change Committee) to determine if the rule is to be changed exactly how it would be worded. It is very unusual for this committee to meet before being directed by Congress which has led many (including myself) to believe that they were shooting for a Nov 23 implementation date. The significance of Nov 23 is that is when ICAO starts allowing age 65 pilots to fly worldwide, including flying into the US. There has been some pressure on Congress to give our pilots the same right. However the ARC which is attempting to put together the new ruling (if it comes to pass) has not been making much progress, in fact there have been heated discussions and they are not even remotely close to any agreement.
Then there is the political side of the Issue. If the Republicans can keep control of the House, Mike feels that the legislation will pass and be implemented next summer. If the Democrats win control of the House, then all the Committee Chairs will change and this legislation will be pushed back and probably tabled to a later date, perhaps some time next year. So as you can see, there is more uncertainty to the passage of this bill than was originally thought. I will keep you posted as more information becomes available.

For those who want a change in the age 60 rule, I recommend that you consider voting GOP. For those who want the age 60 rule to stay in place, I recommend that you consider voting Dem. Whatever you do, vote.

This is your last chance to voice your opinion regarding the Age 60 Rule to the Rule Change Committee. The deadline is tomorrow.

Here's how to do it:

To send your comments, which must be received on or before November 15, 2006,

1. Go to http://dms.dot.gov
2. Click on one of the buttons: "Comment/Submissions."
3. There is no need to register, click on the "Continue" button.
4. The Docket ID Number is: FAA-2006-26139
5. Operating Adminstration is: FAA
6. Document Title is: Age 60 Aviation Rulemaking Committee; Request for Comments
7. Fill in the rest of the form as needed, click "Continue" at the bottom.
8. Page will open up allowing comments to be typed into a text box. Click "Submit."

You can also still send comments via fax or US mail or hand delivery. To use any of these methods, identify your comment by including the Docket Number FAA-2006-26139.

US Mail: Docket Management Facility; U.S. Department of Transportation, 400 Seventh Street , SW., Nassif Building , Room PL -401, Washington , DC 20590-0001 .

Fax: 1-202-493-2251.

Hand Delivery: Room PL -401 on the plaza level of the Nassif Building , 400 Seventh Street , SW., Washington , DC , between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m., Monday through Friday, except Federal holidays.

If you want to read other people's comments, go to
http://dms.dot.gov/search/searchFormSimple.cfm and type in docket number 26139.
 

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