Maintaining Instrument Currency

[TDTURBO]

When the FAR's state thate you must.......
1) Intercept and track a navagational course
2) Perform 6 instrument approaches
3) Perform 6 holds every 6 months

My question is, why include the first one, don't you already intercept and track everytime you shoot a full or partial approach? This goes for the holds as well.

 

[minitour]

Thats a good question...

I understand the approaches thing (although I think a more thorough currency requirement would be 4 nonprecision and 2 precision approaches...but anyway) and the hold thing (make sure if you've gotta hold somewhere you remember how to do it)...

As for the navigational course thingy...I dunno...maybe they want you to track/intercept radials on airways...beats me...

-mini

 

[baseal]

6 Calender Months

Just another question- I had an IPC in March '04 and went the other day to put in some more practice approaches to remain legal (don't flame me about being current). The way I read the FARs I have until the end of September to get my approaches/intercepting/holding done, not 6 months from the actual IPC date. Correct me if I wrong-

 

[midlifeflyer]

Just another question- I had an IPC in March '04 and went the other day to put in some more practice approaches to remain legal (don't flame me about being current). The way I read the FARs I have until the end of September to get my approaches/intercepting/holding done, not 6 months from the actual IPC date. Correct me if I wrong-

Yup, like almost all FAR time measurements, instrument currency is measured in "Calendar months"

And, to add to minitour's response, the addition of "interception and tracking" is one of the great mysteries of the FAR.

 

[Jedi_Cheese]

Couldn't you satisfy the approachs with ASR (Airport Survelence Radar) approaches and yet not get the tracking requirement done?

 

[midlifeflyer]

Couldn't you satisfy the approachs with ASR (Airport Survelence Radar) approaches and yet not get the tracking requirement done?

That's good! I guess you could.

 

[Ralgha]

Couldn't you satisfy the approachs with ASR (Airport Survelence Radar) approaches and yet not get the tracking requirement done?

Yeah...if you could find a friggen facility that would do the blasted thing for you.

 

[lawfly]

Maintaining instrument currency

When the FAR's state thate you must.......
1) Intercept and track a navagational course
2) Perform 6 instrument approaches
3) Perform 6 holds every 6 months

Lawfly's Reply:

There is no requirement to "perform 6 holds every 6 months".
The only requirement for holds is to have performed "holding procedures" (quantity unspecified) with the preceding 6 calendar months. The only elements to which "6" ("six") applies are: number of preceding calendar months, and number of approaches. Neither the number of holding procedures nor the number of courses tracked is specified in 61.57(c)(1)(i),(ii),(iii).

 

[philo beddoe]

I do a hold-type entry instead of a procedure turn on one approach and count that as my holding procedure.

 

[midlifeflyer]

Yeah...if you could find a friggen facility that would do the blasted thing for you.

PUB. Any time you want it.

 

[roundout]

Yeah...if you could find a friggen facility that would do the blasted thing for you.

fargo has one

 

[Jedi_Cheese]

Yeah...if you could find a friggen facility that would do the blasted thing for you.

KMSN and KDLH will both let you do them if you ask.

 

[igneousy2]

Just another question- I had an IPC in March '04 and went the other day to put in some more practice approaches to remain legal (don't flame me about being current). The way I read the FARs I have until the end of September to get my approaches/intercepting/holding done, not 6 months from the actual IPC date. Correct me if I wrong-

Your currency expires 30SEP, however you actually have until 31MAR to do the 6 approaches. After 31MAR then you must get an IPC.

Later

 

[Ralgha]

KMSN and KDLH will both let you do them if you ask.

See, none of those facilities do me any good, cause I don't live anywhere near there.

 

[Dinger]

Your currency expires 30SEP, however you actually have until 31MAR to do the 6 approaches. After 31MAR then you must get an IPC.

Later

Be careful. Your six month grace (sept.-march) doesn't allow you to be PIC. You need a safety pilot! Then, in that grace period, if you log the items required for IFR currency, it all starts over.

 

[vclean]

Remember that the FAR are written by govt. attorneys who are probably not pilots.

 

[minitour]

Be careful. Your six month grace (sept.-march) doesn't allow you to be PIC. You need a safety pilot! Then, in that grace period, if you log the items required for IFR currency, it all starts over.

So say you're going with a Private Pilot who's trying to get cross country hours for his IR. You decide to do a quick little cross country and you'll do 3 approaches at your destination, and three when you get back. So you want to go IFR just because you prefer to go IFR when you fly. Can you? Not actual IMC, you just want to file and fly IFR.

My guess would be no since you're not current to be PIC and he/she can't either because they can't be PIC under IFR either.

-mini

 

[midlifeflyer]

Why are you guessing?

 

[minitour]

Because either I was looking in the wrong place, or just couldn't find anything in the FARs to confirm...so I took a guess.

However, it could be this **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** flu clouding my mind with things other than regs and currency and inspections....

Ah fukc it...I'm going back to bed.

-mini

 

[Dinger]

You cannot accept an IFR clearance as a PIC if you are not instrument current as per FAR part 61.57(c)(1) even if it is VMC.

FAR 61.57(c) Instrument experience. ...blah, blah, blah....no person may act as PIC under IFR (read: on an IFR clearance) OR in weather conditions less than the minimums prescribed for VFR, unless in the preceeding 6 calender months, that person has........done all of the crap to get IFR current.