Mainline airline pilot hiring to increase

[HA25]

Southwest is hiring?

they have on and off quite a bit over the past couple of years... I know quite a few who got on or interviewed..

 

[jonjuan]

Southwest isn't hiring, nor is delta. Alaska it's a slow trickle. Virgin America? Good luck there. For all intents and purposes, no one is currently hiring.

 

[kj6991]

no one? Alaska is hiring, US Air has been and just reopened their window, Atlas has been hiring, Virgin, Southwest, and now Delta reopened their window... on and off there has been quite a bit of hiring...

You're an idiot

 

[HA25]

You're an idiot

go ******************** yourself with a giant spiked dildo

 

[pilotyip]

You're an idiot

my doesn't that the world a better place; it so FI, you fit right in. True they may not being hiring today, but they getting ready to interview, which is the step before hiring.

 

[atpcliff]

I think most rational people would say that a Shortage does not happen until we see an upward shift in pay because of the supply in the market. If we start seeing companies voluntarily shifting first year pay upwards, that's when we'll know that there is truly a pilot shortage.

Small airbus captain pay rose from around $12K/month to $18-$20K/month in the last four years. That is starting, first year pay. It was not because of a surplus of pilots.

cliff
GRB

 

[Lear70]

Small airbus captain pay rose from around $12K/month to $18-$20K/month in the last four years. That is starting, first year pay. It was not because of a surplus of pilots.

cliff
GRB

Where did it do that? Overseas?

I think most of us only give a rat's about what the Legacy pay rates and work rules are doing. The only ones who will go overseas and fly are those who can't get jobs here in the states, either because they don't pay enough (Regionals) or because no one is hiring (Majors).

When the Legacy pay rates come up as a result of a shortage of pilots (and not due to Sec 6 negotiations), we'll talk.

 

[kj6991]

my doesn't that the world a better place; it so FI, you fit right in. True they may not being hiring today, but they getting ready to interview, which is the step before hiring.

Who is they?

 

[pilotyip]

Who is they?

those theys

no one? Alaska is hiring, US Air has been and just reopened their window, Atlas has been hiring, Virgin, Southwest, and now Delta reopened their window... on and off there has been quite a bit of hiring...

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Where did it do that? Overseas?

I think most of us only give a rat's about what the Legacy pay rates and work rules are doing. The only ones who will go overseas and fly are those who can't get jobs here in the states, either because they don't pay enough (Regionals) or because no one is hiring (Majors).

When the Legacy pay rates come up as a result of a shortage of pilots (and not due to Sec 6 negotiations), we'll talk.

I had a job offer here at a so called legacy, turned it down and went overseas, I know of several guys that have given up their seniority to stay as well. So it isn't that cut and dry, but I agree with you that the conditions that have been affecting the T&C's abroad won't materialize here in the US, the division of the workforce into two distinct areas of the profession and the consequent stagnation, has created a pool of experienced pilots for the legacy carriers that wont dry up even after the retirement numbers start increasing, and as far as the regionals go, this is the US after all, there is somebody always willing to upen up another flight school if the business environment is right. As far as the new 1,500 hour rule, well, if it really start hurting the regionals (although I think the hiring will be gradual enough that I do t think it will) the FAA in all their wisdom will issue a waiver.