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NO US president can prevent Capitalistic greed.



au contre mon frere, you must have missed the last year when Obama has been shoveling it to the people, claiming he is going to squash capitalism and the greedy bank CEO's....but then allow them to keep dishing out their multi million dollar bonuses.

Hate to tell you this, but if I believed these guys on FI.com and their claims of how powerful ALPA is, along with the power of Obama. I would start to think that Chuck Norris would be afraid of the two of them combined.
 
Somebody is fishing.




eP.

Yes he is. Just remind him that mainline pilots were too big for those pesky little regional jets who have now eatin their Wheaties, drinking their milk and now have grown into great big regional jets.
 
You mean to tell me flying planes that burn less fuel along with crewing them with pilots that don't make crap for money, just doesn't work??? LOL, wow... Guess payrates really don't mean anything at all. Good play and Q400's seem to work over at Horizon.

Maybe Farrow and Co will ask Dougy to look at some used Q400s for PDT?

BTW, Dougy was in Indy twice in January with BB. Makes me wonder what the next big announcement will be?

T8
 
In regards to jobs, the Lynx pilots will still end up on the RAH seniority list through the SLI process, due to be completed in May.



On the surface, I think the majority of us think that dropping Lynx will be damaging for the brand. The Lynx aircraft were good for most of the flying they did, and certainly right for the tight mountain airports. No jet will do the job as well as the Q400. Operationally, this feels wrong. It is apparent that Bedford has a very exact opinion of how the final brand will look, but unfortunately we only see it one piece at a time. Reducing the Midwest/Frontier brands to a single brand feels correct. Losing prop lift to high yield, operationally demanding airports feels wrong. Bedford has been pretty transparent about his disdain for props, though. He did not pursue the Continental Q400's despite requests and interest from CAL. He is dropping a successful prop operation. I guess we shouldn't be surprised, but it seems illogical. I would have thought that after acquiring an established Q certificate, BB would have tried to grow the fleet and take advantage of other Q400 business opportunities. This may be one of the more notable blunders of BB's recent efforts.

1. Oh they will be merged huh....right with the MEH guys. I am SURE you have your stapler out and loaded.

2. How can you speak for BB... Is he that close with his E170 pilots.

Tell you what dude. P!SS off.
 
1. Oh they will be merged huh....right with the MEH guys. I am SURE you have your stapler out and loaded.

2. How can you speak for BB... Is he that close with his E170 pilots.

Tell you what dude. P!SS off.

Yup, they should be. They were signatories to the SLI agreement. Bedford doesn't decide. The signatories do, or an arbitrator does if they can't.

T8
 
Go back to middle school...

1. Oh they will be merged huh....right with the MEH guys. I am SURE you have your stapler out and loaded.

2. How can you speak for BB... Is he that close with his E170 pilots.

Tell you what dude. P!SS off.

Wow, a current RAH pilot gives a dispassionate post saying he thinks BB screwed up, and the Q400 is a good plane and this is all you've got? You're a joke. Go back to telling yourself that the 230-plus jets you've got at COEX aren't stealing jobs that real CO pilots used to fly in 737s and DC9s. My friends furloughed from CO would disagree, strongly.

Pot, meet kettle.
 
Wow, a current RAH pilot gives a dispassionate post saying he thinks BB screwed up, and the Q400 is a good plane and this is all you've got? You're a joke. Go back to telling yourself that the 230-plus jets you've got at COEX aren't stealing jobs that real CO pilots used to fly in 737s and DC9s. My friends furloughed from CO would disagree, strongly.

Pot, meet kettle.

Who do you fly the 170/190 for?
 
JetBlue. (Sorry, "Blue" as my current profile position may have been a bit too subtle....)
 
JetBlue. (Sorry, "Blue" as my current profile position may have been a bit too subtle....)

Do you really believe that the Q400 is not a good airplane, or are you being sarcastic? Just trying to clarify.
 
Sorry, I left a huge sentence fragment there. I think the Q400 is a great plane; I've ridden in the back and the actual J/S several times and its capabilities are impressive. It's comfortable, pretty darned fast, and burns about the same gas to haul 76 people as what I used to burn hauling 50.

My impression was the RAH guy was also defending the Q, and saying BB f-ed up. Whereas NERJ jumped in with his general blathering hatred of all peeps RAH. I too think BB is f-ing up; fuel prices will go up again, and a solid fleet of Qs would be a great asset for places where the E-Jet just doesn't make sense.
 
Sorry, I left a huge sentence fragment there. I think the Q400 is a great plane; I've ridden in the back and the actual J/S several times and its capabilities are impressive. It's comfortable, pretty darned fast, and burns about the same gas to haul 76 people as what I used to burn hauling 50.

My impression was the RAH guy was also defending the Q, and saying BB f-ed up. Whereas NERJ jumped in with his general blathering hatred of all peeps RAH. I too think BB is f-ing up; fuel prices will go up again, and a solid fleet of Qs would be a great asset for places where the E-Jet just doesn't make sense.

Ok, gotchya. Thanks, I was just confused.
 
I wish nothing but the best for Lynx pilots. Many of them former Mesa, Great Lakes and some Air Wisconson pilots. I hope you all get the chance to keep flying on the EMB170/190 jets; this is a VERY tough time right now to get another flying gig, and nobody wants to start at the bottom again.
 
So where will these Q's wind up? I'm guessing CAL or UAL and hopefully not at Colgan. I would much rather see them go to ExpressJet...
 
So where will these Q's wind up? I'm guessing CAL or UAL and hopefully not at Colgan. I would much rather see them go to ExpressJet...

US Airways is aquiring them for Piedmont Airlines! Wait, wait.... that would make too much sense so it ain't gonna happen.
 
Why would I be joking? The RJ started off as 37-50 seat jets.
Now they're capable of 80-100+

So yes, they have grown in size.

The RJ has not grown in size. Management has just branded more and more airplanes with the RJ brand so people will fly them for less money. The CRJ 700/900 and EMB 170/190's are not RJ's. Just the paycheck of those flying them are RJ Paychecks. Management would have Boeing call the 777 a RJ if they thought they could get them at ASA.
 
Wow, a current RAH pilot gives a dispassionate post saying he thinks BB screwed up, and the Q400 is a good plane and this is all you've got? You're a joke. Go back to telling yourself that the 230-plus jets you've got at COEX aren't stealing jobs that real CO pilots used to fly in 737s and DC9s. My friends furloughed from CO would disagree, strongly.

Pot, meet kettle.

From what I understand, before XJT was independent and COEX was a subsidiary of CAL and the pilots were all part of the same union operating under one MEC, the CAL pilots had the opportunity to one list the whole thing but refused. Of course this was after they relieved scope that brought the 50 seat jets.
 

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