Lowering the bar rant on.

[Hootie9750]

I'm 135 freight trash and don't mind getting frisky....

True that!!

 

[WSurf]

I wish I could find the article that was written out 8 years ago. This guy was right on the button on how regional jets would effect the industry.

In a nut shell, he said Regional Pay would increase while mainline pay decreased. Then he said you would see both pay rates pretty much meet at a center point.

I think thats happened! Many Captains at regionals aren't gonna take the mainline jobs. Many make close to 100k a year, 4-5 vaction slots..... First choice of lines. Many don't want to move on and take the pay hits.

Most of us that want to move on have been Captains for about 2 years, dont have a the golden handcuffs (1 or 2 kids, Non-working wife, mortagage, 2 cars) and can afford to move on.

The industry is what it is. Thats why you are seeing about 10% of the folks taking the jobs back at US Airways. The money isn't worth the commute or the treatment anymore.

The low pay in this industry is one thing, but being treated like a turd is another.

 

[WSurf]

Read this! Its really sums up some views of the industry!!!!!

Dear Mr. Arpey:

On July 1st I retired from American Airlines - 9 years early. Since the
PUP/PSP payouts began 15 months ago, I have felt demoralized, angry and
betrayed. I am fully aware that neither you nor the other senior
managers understand this widespread reality. Perhaps by now the
destructive force of this "plan" has started to sink in to you. I truly
hope so, or American is truly doomed. The PUP has marked the turning
point at American. This was a grotesque error on management’s part; one
that management will never admit; one that the workers will never
forget. As exhibited by AA’s plunging numbers in reliability and
customer satisfaction, the current management game plan cannot recover
this jet. I leave saddened by what could have been at American.

I am by nature a very positive person. The failure of your leadership
has made it clear to me that I cannot work for such a "team" any longer;
for a company that devalues and denigrates its employees while enriching
a few executives. I was offered a job with Virgin America, and after
much consideration, I accepted their offer. I will be working for a
fraction of the pay, but I will be working in an environment of
cooperative spirit and teamwork. I have thus far seen strong and genuine
LEADERSHIP at Virgin, and I could not resist the offer to work for a
company that lists its priorities as:

1. Employees First
2. Customers second
3. Stockholders third

Happy Employees = Happy Customers = Happy Stockholders. What a novel
concept!

Conversely, I see an American Airlines that is nearly totally devoid of
any substantive Leadership, with perhaps two notable exceptions at the
Base Chief Pilot Level.

I remember the wonderful employees of this company that stood up to the
plate, swallowed the tough pill, and put their hearts into turning this
company around. And I am deeply saddened to see the wholesale loss of
heart in these same employees as a direct action of Management’s
Me-First compensation plan.

Mr. Arpey, I have cast my No Confidence Vote with my feet. It is my
intent to finish my flying career surrounded by highly motivated
individuals, ready to sacrifice for the team because they know the Team
cares equally for them. I thought this is what we were going to have at
American Airlines when you took the reins, and I am sadly disappointed
to realize that it is not so.

I lack any confidence in your ability to turn this ship around, let
alone restart its stalled engines. You have a system currently in place
which shields you from both the reality and truth of the daily
operation. For the record: it is hanging by a thread. It is a house of
beauty from afar, whose foundation has been eaten by termites. You have
a "looks good on paper" system that defies reality (no spare tires for a
737 in DFW? A flight cancelled for no spare wing tip light bulbs? Actual
events in the past six months).

You rely on statistics that are generated by a system designed for CYA,
not system improvement. Here’s a reality check: Our dismal customer
satisfaction and on-time performance statistics are not due to weather.
It’s due to the storm of employee morale and foolish strategic decisions
which have led to poor reliability. Your employees used to give above
and beyond to make the system work, regardless of the “weather”. And now
they just don’t care anymore.

AA’s delay system has always been an exercise in finger-pointing and
blame assignment. Complete reliance upon statistics themselves is a
mistake, because, first, they give you the false impression that the
workers are even participating in the system; and secondly do not
provide you with even a partial picture or reason why. My retirement is
one example: One more number added to a list of retirements. Do you
notice it is 9 years early? That it is a fairly senior guy with a
reputation for going the extra mile? Do you wonder why? Or do you just
tell Planning, we need another new body? My point exactly.


In discussing my plans to leave American with several people in
Management, I came away shaking my head: The “leaders” of this company
are delusional. “We might suck, but United sucks even more.” “AA won’t
be losing business customers to Virgin. We have contracts with them.
They HAVE to fly AA.” Now there’s a business plan with promise….

Or my favorite: “You’re pissed off. Why? Because you’re the highest paid
in the industry and will retire a multi-millionaire?” That statement
pretty much said it all. And if you are relying on inputs from these
people, sir, you are deluded as well.

IF any of the other senior leadership were to leave your offices and
get out on the factory floor; and IF any of you would be open to
listening, you might start to realize how fragile the system is. The
workforce is enraged, and you cannot understand why. So you stop right
there. And yet the workforce is still enraged. There is a steaming
locomotive headed your way for a catastrophic collision, and you just
shrug your shoulders.

Sir, you have 80,000 employees starving for leadership. You have an even
smaller group of employees (namely the agents, rampers, and flight
crews) that are the only thing holding this operation together. We have
finished in the basement all year long on all the ratings you value for
our laughable AIP bonus, and yet you pin it on "weather events" instead
of recognizing that your workforce no longer cares.

You can discount me as one of the malcontents if you wish. Or if you are
wise you would step back and be concerned that you have lost someone
like me who would've carried the flag up Mt Suribachi just a few months
ago, but is walking away now. It's not just me. I cannot tell you how
many phone calls and handshakes I've received from employees telling me
they wish they could do the same. I won't tell you how many other pilots
I know who are actively seeking other opportunities to escape the
toxicity of this company. The bottom line is that you have taken the
tremendous wave of positive energy this workforce once had to create a
New American Airlines, and you have sucked all the energy out of it.

In its place you have created a self-destructive force of discontent and
apathy that WILL lead to a strike on this property and perhaps the
ultimate demise of this company. You have failed. Miserably.

I said before that I am a positive person, and so I still hold out a ray
of hope; and that is why, perhaps foolishly, I write this final letter:
on the miniscule chance that you might actually listen.

Can this all be saved? It is such a long shot. The “Turnaround Plan”
would have to start with an acknowledgement of your failures, and an
apology for the empty slogans and promises. You might want to start with
an end to the PUP, and a similar distribution / reparation to your
employees for good measure.

An AApology from the Senior Leadership for this grievous error; an olive
branch to the workers to bring them back into the process; and nothing
short of returning the pay and working rules that were sacrificed to
save the company from bankruptcy in the first place. Not through
contract negotiations, sir. But as reparation for the tremendous damage
the PUP has done. Quite frankly, there is nothing else that will stop
the freight train.

I know. You think you gave us so much with stock options and the AIP. I
think I recall you describing it as a "$1 billion payout to the
employees". We can go back and forth on this one forever, but suffice it
to say that most of us gave up the equivalent of a full year's salary by
now to receive at the VERY best, 25% of a year's salary in these
programs. Your "team" on the other hand gave up what? To receive many
times your annual salary in payouts, not once, but twice and thrice to
come. Mr. Arpey, your message is not playing to the peasants.

By now you should realize you have lost all credibility with your
workforce. By now you should realize that you have destroyed the
fledgling cooperative spirit at AA. And if you don't, God help American
Airlines. If you ever want to talk about what needs to be done to turn
this ship around, I am always available! As are the other 80,000
employees of your company. Start listening.


I leave with my best wishes and hopes for this company. There are so
many people here who deserve its success. At Virgin America it is quite
clear that they understand that a motivated workforce is the key to
success. And you cannot motivate by beating and robbing your employees.
I sincerely hope that one day American Airlines will “get it” and start
to reap the benefits of an empowered, motivated workforce. It would be a
grand victory for everyone in the company, top to bottom. It starts with
LEADERSHIP. Inspired leadership, not Management. My first employer, The
Air Force, taught that leadership put people first. Interestingly, they
taught that the troops should always eat first. Conversely, at AMR,
management is always the first to the table and the last to leave. I
think this explains better than anything the loss of morale at American,
and the subsequent plummeting numbers you see for customer satisfaction.

You have seen hints of this great workforce potential in the years
leading up to the first PUP. Your Management team may have accomplished
great financial feats, but you must certainly also know that it was your
inspired and dedicated employees that pulled off the real miracle.



Sincerely,

xxx xxxxx
Captain, SFO
RETIRED

 

[hockeypilot44]

...successfully. Without hanging the operational losses on its employees.

Southwest had some of the lowest paid 737 pilots in the country for its first 25 years in existence. Things are good there now, but things change.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

That chick in your avatar is hot. Sorry, continue....


WB 22

(where do you find all these hot pictures.)

SiuCav,

Any chance you could find an avatar of one of those "Eagle FAs" eating a banana? :blush:

 

[siucavflight]

SiuCav,

Any chance you could find an avatar of one of those "Eagle FAs" eating a banana? :blush:

Ill ask when I go back to work Monday!

 

[Magneto]

What does it mean when there is a full Southwest flight?



There is an empty trailer park somewhere.

 

[siucavflight]

What does it mean when there is a full Southwest flight?



There is an empty trailer park somewhere.

I like it, although I would also love to fly for them!

 

[Dubya]

What does it mean when there is a full Southwest flight?



There is an empty trailer park somewhere.

...or a Nascar race at the destination.

W

 

[Abbey]

Southwest had some of the lowest paid 737 pilots in the country for its first 25 years in existence. Things are good there now, but things change.

So true.

I was witness to a retired SWA pilot telling a pax that he can't believe that pilots are willing to fly for what the regionals and majors are paying, how they are doing the profession harm, etc...

To all the SWA pilots that bought their jobs and received industry low pay for years....."Pot, meet Kettle".

 

[finnjl]

speaking of SWA they are on track to be the biggest airline this year in terms of passengers carried....I wonder what AA thinks about this

 

[CopilotDoug]

If you ask me this whole business can be blamed on two events: 1) The American B-Scale, and 2) Delta letting Comair fly RJ's back in the early '90s

If you ask me, it can be blamed on Modern Day management being pressured to make their 20% margins year over year by investors and Jon Q. Public wanting something for nothing.