Lowering an already low bar

[Lear70]

Ummm... that would be called an illegal work action and would get a lot of people who couldn't come up with legitimate absence excuses FIRED and there's nothing they could do about it. If it got on your record in any way it would also look EXCEPTIONALLY bad to the hiring board of an airline that LUVS (hint) the fact that they've always worked out their differences with labor in a legally and morally correct manner.

I echo your frustration, but the only time an organized body of labor is allowed to legally stop working is when they have been released to do so per the RLA. The only thing we can continue to do from a labor standpoint is stick to our guns come contract time and ensure that EVERY UNION MEMBER AT EVERY REGIONAL CARRIER is on the same page for what needs to be accomplished.

p.s. I remember the ATC strike and Reagan's swift and harsh response. I also seem to remember a more recent action by the APA and how well that turned out... $$ OUCH $$

 

[jarhead]

SWAnnabee

I am afraid you are very much mistaken, in your comments that pilots are "free to strike anytime". They most assuredly are not free to strike. They are governed by the Federal Railway Labor Act, and there is a long and arduous process that must be gone through, including mediation, 30 day cooling off period, etc, before they can be released to strike. Even the President of the United States can put the kibosh on an airline strike for up to sixty days if he deems it would hurt the country too much. That said, any one can quit their job. Then your seniority number is gone, and should you ever get an interview again and offered a job with a new airline, you'd be starting over at the rock bottom pay scale. How many senior pilots do you think would want to participate in what would certainly get them fired. You don't think there are thousands of guys out there who the airlines would not hire? Hell, the airlines would love that. They'd get a heck of a lot lower payroll, if all the pilots were newbies, at the bottom of the pay scale.

 

[SWAnnabee]

I stand corrected.

Just frustrated. I hate my current pay/conditions and get frustrated that with all the training and education we have, we should be on par with any other highly skilled professional (ie doctor, radiologist, contractor, computer tech, etc). Just grabbing for straws.

 

[jarhead]

SWAnnabee

It may not be "fair", but it is reality. There are too many who want the pilot jobs that are available. Supply and demand will always rule. Lots of guys would like to play major league baseball or basketball. The reason those pay scales are so high, is that there are a fixed number of franchises and players, and only the very top talent gets that big buck pay. If every high school kid in the country had the same talent as Shaq or Nolan Ryan, you would see low pay in sports too. The fact is, anyone can learn to fly an airplane. It is not that difficult.

 

[Club ORD FO]

The idea of 'educating' the next generation CFIs on how to not lower the bar is a very nice, but very naive idea.



The real problem?

TOO MANY PILOTS. Argue all you want about it, but this is the real problem. How can this be addressed? Let's hear some ideas.

I've got it!! I go to my sister's elementary school to chat to the kids every semester. From now, on I'll tell them I hate my job, and that I expect to be dead before I'm 30 from radiation due to solar flares.

Spread the word!! Scare the kids who will be the pilots of tomorrow!

ACA RJ FO

 

[JohnDoe]

Stillaboo:

"Wow! I hope this was a # you just pulled out of thin air, b/c you aren't gonna' get any current Beech drivers to sign on @ $35. Of course, there are plenty of CFI's who would take it for $25. "



There in lies the problem.....You WOULD get some current Beech drivers to work for that kind of money along with plenty of CFI's. All so they could "at least have a flying job" and can build their time........

 

[belchfire]

We're all whores! We are trying to make the big bucks doing
something we think is fun for a living...Some whores just get paid
better! Just call any escort service!!!

Too many whores and not enough johns/streetcorners! Tell everyone you know to become an engineer or plastic surgeon
so they can fly their own bonanza around! Dry up the pilot
supply! If noone will fly for these stupid wages, pay will eventually go up!