Looks Like DAL Is Staying At DAL

[Ex737Driver]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/federal-judge-dallas-says-delta-230657993.html

 

[General Lee]

Smack! Any comments from Howie or Red? Hey Red, any comments about the refinery too? Hugely profitable now with low oil.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[HowardBorden]

Smack! Any comments from Howie or Red?

Status quo remains until the courts render a final decision.

"The judge's decision Friday allows Delta to continue operating on a temporary basis at Love Field with five flights to a single destination"

"The Court's order will be in effect until there is a final resolution by agreement, trial or otherwise"

 

[DUBLINFLYER]

WOW the General surfaced again, oil is cheap now but it costs a lot to run the refinery and this is not helped in anyway with the low oil costs. It does help the air carriers bottom line of course

 

[Andy]

Status quo remains until the courts render a final decision.

"The judge's decision Friday allows Delta to continue operating on a temporary basis at Love Field with five flights to a single destination"

"The Court's order will be in effect until there is a final resolution by agreement, trial or otherwise"

The status quo will remain until one side exhausts all appeals. Probably years from now.

With the glacial speed that Judge Kinkeade's moving (along with his less than charitable comments toward Southwest), one might think that the pizzas Southwest keeps sending to the courthouse don't have toppings that Kinkeade likes.

 

[Andy]

Belated update.

Southwest is filing a couple of lawsuits since they've gone against Southwest.

Appealing Kinkeade's ruling: http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/...o-fully-utilize-our-gates-at-love-field.html/

Filing to get the DOT letter thrown out: http://www.law360.com/articles/758913/southwest-fights-dot-calls-to-share-dallas-gates-with-delta


So now the question is when will Southwest run out of appeals? Delta's just using Southwest tactics against Southwest.

 

[jackjack]

SWA needs to ramp up in Atlanta. Lots of full flights daily, difficult to commute.

 

[Ty Webb]

SWA needs to ramp up in Atlanta. Lots of full flights daily, difficult to commute.

No S#it. . . . . Bring back PNS, MLI, BMI, GPT, CHS, SAV, DAB, PHF and all the other places where we were making money kicking Delta's butt out of ATL.

 

[HowardBorden]

Belated update.

Southwest is filing a couple of lawsuits since they've gone against Southwest.

Appealing Kinkeade's ruling: http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/...o-fully-utilize-our-gates-at-love-field.html/

Filing to get the DOT letter thrown out: http://www.law360.com/articles/758913/southwest-fights-dot-calls-to-share-dallas-gates-with-delta


So now the question is when will Southwest run out of appeals? Delta's just using Southwest tactics against Southwest.

Southwest is just trying to protect what the 5 party agreement laid out for Love field. Delta had just as much right to reach a lease agreement with United as SWA for the two gates in question. Delta simply needed to break out their checkbook and outbid SWA for for those gates.

From the 5 party agreement:

Dallas Love Field-

"20 gates (per the five-party agreement and Wright Amendment Reform Act)"

Airports can lease gates on following basis:

"Exclusive use"-Airlines have full control, including branding and scheduling,
over space.

"Preferential use"-Airlines have control but gives right for airport to allow new entrants to operate at gates that are not being fully utilized.

"Common use"-Gate space and time of use is managed by the airport.

Dallas Love Field has leased all available gates on a preferential use basis-
Southwest Airlines - 16 gates. United Airlines - 2 gates. Virgin America - 2 gates.

"Typically, ten flights or 'turns' per gate is full utilization"

Use & Lease Agreements:

"Allows for the sub-lease of the gates"

All gates at Love are "preferential" use gates.

Preferential use gates can be leased.

New entrants can be accommodated at gates that are not fully utilized.

"Ten flights is full utilization."

SWA legally leased the 2 gates from United with the legal blessing from the governing bodies. Southwest will fully utilize the gates in question with the requisite ten flights per day.

http://dallascityhall.com/government...ses_042814.pdf

 

[Yuppyguppy]

Screw Southwest. That airline sucks.