Looking at corporate... Please advise!

[steveg]

Best reply I've seen yet. The airline unions I've dealt with want a huge piece of the profit, and nothing to do with the loss. The greed and arrogance overwhelms me, and I've been an airline guy for 10+ years!

So how 'bout it. What can a guy just trying to fly airplanes for a living do? Keep knocking on doors? Explain my past (I'm embarassed to say who I presently work for). Take any job I can? Or hope for a good corporate job looking for airline guys? HAHA! I truly have no ego when it comes to flying, and I can't get the time of day. I'd be happy to fly right seat in a 172!

Thanks for the Info.

Steve

 

[Frac Daddy]

Some charter outfits in Atlanta.

The other posters are correct, in my opinion. You need to start a "corporate-looking" resume. The 1900 time should definitely help land a King Air charter gig. Here is a link that lists the charter operators in Atlanta.(Mostly at KPDK). http://www.aircharterguide.com/acg/guide/operators/bylocation.asp?country=US&state=GA+&city=ATLANTA As you can see, there are a few King Airs out there. Start banging on their doors. Try KLZU, too. Georgia Jet is the name I believe.

 

[Iceman21]

I guess my question would be, where does the guy who only has 100 TT and would like to target Corporate aviation start. I know networking is the key and everyone says start banging on doors but what do you do after the door is opened?

Just introduce yourself and take it from there? I guess that is where I kinda struggle as of right now, is selling myself.

Any tips?

 

[banned username 2]

I guess my question would be, where does the guy who only has 100 TT and would like to target Corporate aviation start. I know networking is the key and everyone says start banging on doors but what do you do after the door is opened?

Just introduce yourself and take it from there? I guess that is where I kinda struggle as of right now, is selling myself.

Any tips?

Well you need to keep things in perspective... with 100TT and a Private Pilot Certificate, don't go bothering the Corporate Operators.... YET

Get the rest of your certificates and ratings.. INCLUDING your CFI, CFI-I and CFI-ME....

Get a job as a CFI and fly your butt off... Get 1,500 hours and the rest of the ATP requirements, get your ATP Certificate.

After you get your ATP, start hitting all the local Charter Operators (passenger carrying) that you can... Get a job flying Charter and move up from the turbo props to the jets... get a jet Type Rating or two and a decent amount of jet time...

NOW start banging on the Corporate Operators doors with a nice resume that includes an ATP, 3000-4000 hours Total Time, a Jet Type rating or two and 500+ hours of jet time... NOW you are a prime candidate for a decent Corporate job...

If you start bothering them too early, (like when there is no way possible they can hire you even if they wanted to) by the time you are ripe for hire they will be sick of you... Make sure when you start bothering them you have some realistic qualifications to offer them...

Good Luck, Corporate Aviation can be very rewarding!

 

[Iceman21]

Falcon Capt, thanks for your comments, I appreciate them

I guess I made it seem like I was trying to jump the gun, and I understand that I am in no way shape or form ready to banging on the doors of Motorola asking them for a seat on one of their Challengers.

My question was more along the lines of "How do go about banging on doors when I am ready to?" What sort of ways are there to properly accomplish networking without getting every door slammed in my face because I made an ass out of myself?

That being said, I will finish off my ratings by the end of spring and be instructing by June so I will have that under my belt and begin chipping away at the iceburg.

Thanks again,

Mike

 

[Brett Hull]

Not trying to take over your thread, Iceman. Just want to throw a couple more questions at Falcon Capt, G-200, TMMT, and whoever else wants to answer.

After flying charter in Learjets for the past 4 years, I just got my first real corporate job flying a 35. I've only been there a month, and I'm not already looking to bail, but I'd leave in a heartbeat if someting came open back home in St. Louis. My question is: how long do the larger operators (Falcon 50/900, Challenger, etc...) like for people to fly corporate before they'll look at you, and how many of you live in the city you want to?

Thanks for all the great info you guys provide!

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Well, hope I can help....

I dont think there is any kind of "time requirement" you need to meet to move up to the bigger, better corp jobs....I think our company needs around 4000TT to really get you hired..but thats a ballpark number...

I would say if you are a Lear PIC, keep it up, get the PIC time, and certainly keep looking for your dream job. Always look out for #1, never know when that dream gig will pop up.

When you ask about working in the area you want to be....do you mean can corporate guys commute?? If so, I would say NO. Just couldn't work. But....I would say the best bet for the best corp jobs is in the obvious busy corp airports....KTEB,KHPN,KVNY,KMDW......New York, LA, Chicago.....obviously where most the big business is....unfortunatly these areas are expensive to live in, but...its nice to be around the busy areas in case you find yourself suddenly seeking employment on short notice (what...in this business!!) In the busy areas networking is tight, and you shouldnt be unemployed for long once you know lots of people...

I dont know who to suggest in St. Louis....not really a huge corp area...check out the NBAA guide for all the local operators...maybe Andheuser Busch??...Im guessing..

Good Luck to you