Look at what Virgin America has done with pilot wages

[clippyrip]

Look what they were able do do with the money they didn't pay their pilots. It's real nice.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/07/29/226174/video-virgin-america-to-sell-legroom.html

 

[Soverytired]

Look what they were able do do with the money they didn't pay their pilots. It's real nice.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/07/29/226174/video-virgin-america-to-sell-legroom.html

Uh, because they don't "pay their pilots" they're able to . . .

. . . charge their passengers more for bulkhead and exit row seats?

Did you even read that article, or do you just generally smear everything that says "Virgin America"? Just curious.

 

[flyn96]

WOW, more money for more legroom, what a concept, United, NWA and everyone else have been doing this for a couple years now. I thought Branson was sooooo innovative and hip!

Look what they were able do do with the money they didn't pay their pilots. It's real nice.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/07/29/226174/video-virgin-america-to-sell-legroom.html

 

[westward]

I thought Branson was sooooo innovative and hip!

In case you missed it, the day they announced extra legroom, Branson was unveiling Virgin Galactic.

Hmm, commercial space travel, nothing innovative about that, right?

 

[relief tube]

I love the part about their wages that says captains go back to 1st year CA pay. Keep it classy VA.

Black uniforms - I can feel the extra sweat already.

 

[Blue Dude]

Hmm, commercial space travel, nothing innovative about that, right?

Not really, because it's not commercial space travel. You don't actually go anywhere, just up and down. It's basically the same thing that any Canyon tour company does with 421's, or your average helicopter sightseeing company, just a whole lot more expensive. The technology is innovative - you can thank Rutan for that. The business concept? Not so much.

 

[Long-Gonner]

I love the part about their wages that says captains go back to 1st year CA pay. Keep it classy VA.

Black uniforms - I can feel the extra sweat already.

I don't really have a horse in the race......but as far as wages go, FO pay 1st, 2nd, and 3rd year are far more than some majors pay. The going back to 1st year captain pay when you upgrade is crap, but that's something you fix in contract negotiations........but I guess you need a union for that too, lol.

Black uniforms.......not a big deal if all you do is night flying!

 

[Tail Gunner Joe]

Hmm, commercial space travel, nothing innovative about that, right?

Not really.
PanAm was selling tickets for space travel 35 years ago. Same as Branson is doing to today.

 

[skiandsurf]

Not a good sign when they start charging for extras. Hope its not too bad of a sign, as I know a handful of those Virgins.

And while we're at it...lets ask Ralph Cramden or other VA pilots...

1. How are those white first class seats holding up. I know there was concern of them showing the dirt.

2. How is the "on demand" food service working? Are they still doing it "on demand" or the old fashioned way?

3. Is everyone still happy with the black shirt uniform with no tie, or are they going to change that look?

Not a slam, just honest questions.

 

[bravodude]

Virgin Atlantic already charges extra for emergency exit seats. We paid extra on our way over to London and it was worth every penny!

 

[328dude]

but as far as wages go, FO pay 1st, 2nd, and 3rd year are far more than some majors pay. quote]

Really? What legancy does Virgin beat for FO wages in the first three years on the same class of airplane?

Research. It's a good thing.

 

[Ralph Cramden]

Not a good sign when they start charging for extras. Hope its not too bad of a sign, as I know a handful of those Virgins.

And while we're at it...lets ask Ralph Cramden or other VA pilots...

1. How are those white first class seats holding up. I know there was concern of them showing the dirt.

2. How is the "on demand" food service working? Are they still doing it "on demand" or the old fashioned way?

3. Is everyone still happy with the black shirt uniform with no tie, or are they going to change that look?

Not a slam, just honest questions.

You rang?

FC seats are doing fine, still white, and full on the transcons I fly.

Cabin crew goes through with beverage cart to start, then turns on the on demand. It does keep them busy but the guests (pax in Virgin lingo) love it. There have been a few hiccups, such as elderly not understanding how to get food ordered as the debit or credit card transaction is done on the IFE screen only.

I like not wearing a tie. That's all I'm going to say on #3

Ralphie...

 

[007]

I love the part about their wages that says captains go back to 1st year CA pay. Keep it classy VA.

Standard practice in Europe.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Really? What legancy does Virgin beat for FO wages in the first three years on the same class of airplane?

Research. It's a good thing.

Now since when did facts ever stop anyone from posting nonsense!:laugh:
Now as far as va goes, its a scumbag operation, paying scumbag prices, run by a scumbag owner. Ever see what Branson told his employees who threatedned to strike? He basically told them to stay home if they strike.

Scope

Did I mention its a scumbag operation

 

[spacecadet1]

Is it true that FO's have to clean the lavs at VA? Of course whores are good at doing menial labor.