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How do you guys log PIC. I have heard from some people that it is alright to log PIC if it is your leg and you are typed in the A/C, even though you are not the "Captain" per se. This seems a little unusual to me coming from the 121 world. Along the same line, is it legal to log PIC this way. Just wondering you know, I'm thinking about hopping over to the Corp world but I'm having a hard time putting down that 121 PIC time crack pipe!

Cheers....
 
I seem to remember that most pilot job applications will have a matrix for the applicant to fill out. The PIC columns are usually broken down into 2 or 3 categories. Part 1 PIC, Part 61 PIC and PIC as Instructor. The Part 61 PIC would be the time spent as the sole manipulator of the controls being rated in that aircraft. The Part 1 would be the PIC time that you actually are the insurable "Captain" who is solely responsible for the operation of the aircraft, ie:"signed for it"

That's how I always understood it anyway...

-pj
 
Not sure if this helps, however, if I read this correctly...SWA allows logging of PIC even if you are not listed as per Part 1 of the FARs. This is right out of the SWA job board.

Southwest Airlines defines "Pilot in Command" as the Pilot responsible for the operation and safety of the aircraft during flight. This definition is taken from PART I of the FAR. Southwest Airlines further allows logging of PIC as follows: For an aircraft requiring a type rating: If both pilots are type rated, the pilot in the left seat and sole manipulator of the controls may log PIC. If only one pilot is type rated only that pilot may log PIC, regardless of seat position. For aircraft not requiring a type rating: Only the pilot in the left seat and sole manipulator of the controls may log PIC.
 
On any a/c I am type rated in, I have logged PIC when I was the pilot flying (from the left seat normally). As far as my logbook, I created another column called "aircraft commander", in which I log time as PIC in aircraft I am signing for. That way, if anyone questions you, you can easily show them the time you logged under Part 1 and/or 61. That way it does not look like you are taking extra credit. I've never had any problems doing it this way.
 
If you're planning on making a career out of corporate, then no one gives a crap how you log PIC time. I've never been asked to present my logbooks at a corporate interview. If you plan on going back to the 121 world, then by all means, pay attention to the above posts.
 
Hey Jack Schitt, do I know you? Someone told me I didn't know you but I think we've met.
 
I guess I don't know Jack Schitt then.
 

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