Logging time question?

[siucavflight]

Guys, hate to bring this thread back to the top, but after all the debating that went on I called my local FSDO (DPA) to get an opinion from them, took them a while to get back to me, but basically the majority of us were correct according to the opinion. PIC may not be logged by both pilots on a 91 flight regardless if both pilots are type rated, or one is giving instruction to the other.
Only the pilot who is in control of the aircraft may log PIC, and the other should be logging SIC, anda they refrenced 61.51.
Thanks again guys for all of your help with this one. I guess every FSDO will give you different answers.

 

[HA25]

It's absolutely mind boggling that so many people can be so wrong so often on such a simple subject. Moreover, one that's printed so plainly in the regulation. It's not a debatable topic, and it only requires lifting a finger to help one's self to look it up.

You needn't worry about what anyone else thinks, what so-and-so does, or how someone believes it ought to be. The regulation is very, very clear.

Logging pilot in command time is NOT the same as acting as pilot in command. Only one person may ACT as pilot in command at any given time. More than one person may LOG pilot in command at the same time.





No, but that's really irrelevant with respect to logging the time in accordance with the regulation, as acting as PIC is an entirely different subject than logging flight time, or logging PIC.

Acting as sole manipulator of the controls in an aircraft for which the pilot is rated does entitle him or her to log PIC.



That is entirely irrelevant with respect to Part 91 corporate operations. "Designation" by the company has no bearing on who can log what. You may be confused with Part 121 or 135, in which the person designated by the company as the PIC remains the PIC for the entire duration of the flight. However, even in those cases, one may still legally log PIC when acting as sole manipulator of the controls, if one is rated in the aircraft (category, class, and type).

The political implications of logging such time, with respect to an interview, are irrelevant when considering what one can and cannot log. One who flies for a 121 or 135 operation may well be advised to avoid logging PIC unless he or she is the acting PIC...but again, that's another subject.

What he said..