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- Apr 17, 2004
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How would someone log SIC, in A Pilatus(PC-12), given this is a single pilot aircraft? Just curious?
So, is that multiengine or turbine-powered airplane or is it multiengine turbine powered airplane?FAR 135.151 said:No person may operate a multiengine, turbine-powered airplane or rotorcraft having a passenger seating configuration of six or more and for which two pilots are required by certification or operating rules unless it is equipped with an approved cockpit voice recorder
The reason why I was asking is because a Fractional called Plane Sense operates an all Pilatus fleet, and I'm wondering how their new FO's log their time???h25b said:You can't log SIC to my knowledge unless for some reason you didn't have an autopilot and it was operated under FAR 135 ... Otherwise the only person that could log anything would be the actual PIC..
Listen... Just don't do it. If you really have to find some loophole in the regs. to log a flight it's not worth the trouble of logging it.
What if the op specs do require it?What if a second crewmember is required in the company ops specs to operate a pc-12?
No, there is no prohibition of using one. There is no requirement for one. I know of no turboprop operator that does not have 135.105 approval in their op specs.there is nothing in the regulation that prohibits you from using a qualified SIC
It really is a shame that in the future there will be a lot of young pilots turned away for having perfectly legitimate time in their books, turned away by folks that don't understand the regs.FlyFlyFly said:No, there is no prohibition of using one. There is no requirement for one. I know of no turboprop operator that does not have 135.105 approval in their op specs.
Again, this goes back to logging SIC in a single engine airplane that requires one pilot.
There are only four ways to do it where it is recognized, loggable, SIC time. Under Part 91, K or otherwise, there is no provision for it.
One may log time any way they want. For the application for ratings and certificates, this would not be legal time.
I would also argue that future employers would seriously question the time, as there is no need for a second pilot in this airplane from my perspective.
I believe part 91K requires a PIC and an SIC regardless of the aircraft utilized.There are only four ways to do it where it is recognized, loggable, SIC time. Under Part 91, K or otherwise, there is no provision for it.