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gnx99

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Does a college ground school course (priv, comm, cfi, etc.) count as "logging ground training"?

Would I need a transcript to prove it?
 
Yup, sure does. Why do you need to prove it? If you are asking about getting a rating, I believe your CFI signs you off for a practical test, which includes the fact that you have done the ground training. If it's for a knowledge test, the person who signs you off for it is certifying it. Usually, the teacher at a college course is a CFI or certified ground instructor and can sign you off for the test. Hope this helps.
 
You got it.

The only two reasons you should need to prove it is to the CFI you are going to be flying with and the written test center. For his peace of mind he is going to review everything with you anyway and if you are ready for the written you should have an endorsement from the groundschool, so go take the test.
 
Written test signoff

All you need is that magic signoff from your CFI or ground instructor. The language in the signoff states that you have received ground instruction and are qualified to take the written.
 
61.105(a)
General. A person who is applying for a private pilot certificate must receive and log ground training from an authorized instructor or complete a home-study course on the aeronautical knowledge areas of paragraph (b) of this section that apply to the aircraft category and class rating sought.


So yes, technically you have to log it, although most DE's don't ask to see your ground training log. It is implied when CFI signs you off for practical, but that does not mean that you don't have to log it.

I know of a DE that busted a CFI applicant because he didn't have any proof of the required ground training.
 
Logging ground training

Depends on the FSDO where you are training. At SLC, they require the training to be logged in your logbook. All the DPEs have been directed to check and reject anyone who has not done this. I'm not certain, but perhaps attaching the transcript inside your logbook would suffice. They just started this campaign in our area about a year ago.

For compliance, we made up a label for the Private, Inst, comm and cfi which can be put on a page of the logbook and signed off as you complete the various ground subjects.

Just depends upon how strict the interpretation of "log and receive" is in your area. Check with the guy you are going to take your checkride with if you question what your instructor tells you.

PA

PS--they seem to have ignored the "or complete home study course" portion of the reg; you must have the required training logged or you cannot test.
 
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