Log book question for the majors

[Tonala2k]

I'm only just at 1000hrs but am starting a new log book. Looking back at my last attempts to keeping a log book I have to laugh at all the misconceptions I first had. That first log book looks like one giant ink blob. Any way, I'm trying to get this log book started correctly and wanted to make sure I'm including all the right info for a major airline when the time comes. What info should I include? Turbine, Turbo-Prop, Turbo- Fan, Turbo-Jet, Total PIC, SIC, or PIC for each type, and SIC for each type? Glass Panal? Complex, High Perf?

I'd appreciate any advise.

 

[LivinDaDream]

My advise is to go to an electronic logbook.

With an elog, you can just enter all the parameters for the a/c model flown and it will autofill all the categories for you. You may have to add a few columns of your own, like PIC Turbine and SIC Turbine or 121/135 time. But once it is set up, it's easy. Then when you get an app that asks you for some bizarre time, you can sort it and have the numbers right in front of you. Just back it up often and maybe print a hard copy once a month as a back up.

Not a bad idea to still keep a basic logbook just to track IMC, Xctry, night/day, and approaches. Otherwise, set up the other stuff for the software and let your computer do the work. Unfortunately, no 2 airlines ask for the same info and some even ask for a breakdown by every aircraft flown. Good luck sorting through how many day landings you had in a 172 vs. a 152. It can take days sorting it out.

I used Logbook Pro, but there are several out there now.

Good Luck..

 

[AMRCostUnit]

I'd appreciate any advise.

Start a business. Make lots of money. Buy your own plane and fly it. RUN from THIS career field. Run Forrest Run!

Unit
Advisor

 

[PHXFLYR]

Start a business. Make lots of money. Buy your own plane and fly it. RUN from THIS career field. Run Forrest Run!

Unit
Advisor

Is that what they told you when you were coming up the ranks learning how to fly? And if they did,would you have listened to their advice? I'm sure he knows the sorry state of the our industry and that it isn't the job that it used to be.( I dare you to show me any job in any industry that is.) But if he is aware of all the crap the average line pilot has to put up with on a daily basis ,then I'm sure he will be able to come to his own conclusions as to whether this is the career for him/her or not without any input from "the peanut gallery" here on FltInfo.Com. Anyway wasn't his original question about how best to set up his new logbook?

PHXFLYR

 

[jehtplane]

I'm only just at 1000hrs but am starting a new log book. Looking back at my last attempts to keeping a log book I have to laugh at all the misconceptions I first had. That first log book looks like one giant ink blob. Any way, I'm trying to get this log book started correctly and wanted to make sure I'm including all the right info for a major airline when the time comes. What info should I include? Turbine, Turbo-Prop, Turbo- Fan, Turbo-Jet, Total PIC, SIC, or PIC for each type, and SIC for each type? Glass Panal? Complex, High Perf?

I'd appreciate any advise.

My advice is don't worry about it, by the time the majors start hiring again and I assume you mean legacy carriers, the planes won't need pilots. Don't worry about complex or high performance, or glass, you need good total time and turbine PIC, oh and don't forget about the other 10000 pilots out there with 6000 hours total and 2000 jet PIC waiting for the majors job, other than that you are good to go, and that was the nice version, do you want the not nice one? LOL

 

[Nocturnal1]

I use an Ecel spreadsheet I put together. Does the same things as an elog and costs zilch. Just ensure that each page has your name on it and all the requisite columns(in case they get detached).
P.S. Don't let those with negativity get you discouraged...this job is cake. Sure there are hassles, but where else can you work half a month and make a pretty decent paycheck. Some of these people would complain if they were on fire and you peed on them!

 

[Tonala2k]

Noc,
The excel thing works well for me too. Though my cost factor is through the roof with regard to time. I'm hyper-anal about it and set it up with all sorts of auto fills. I never knew anyone would ever include three "IF" clauses in one cell in that program. I've got it tracking recent times too. A lot of fun on my days off. My thought was that the company would foremost want to see it in paper.

To all the naysayers of the industry, do you really want to tell someone to aim for the mud and hit rather than aim for the stars and miss? I've never known an archer to hit a distant target with out aiming way above it. Does a fisher cast a single line? Two mice fell in a bucket of cream... "Who moved my Cheese?" If I recall correctly, the average American changes careers four times. I'd rather be working toward all five now then have to start over with each change. I tell you what, it's great being young and not feeling consigned to a state of misery.

That was kind of fun