Litigation Update

[braveheart]

RJ Defense Coalition
Ensuring One Level of Representation
www.rjdefense.com

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Litigation Update​

The March 6, 2006 RJDC Litigation Update can now be downloaded from the RJDC's web site. This update includes:​

• Start of Depositions Signals New Chapter in ALPA's History
• ALPA Amnesia Syndrome Reaches Epidemic Proportions
• Much Ado About Nothing
• The Legal Dictionary: Conflict of Interest

Link: http://www.rjdefense.com/2006/030606litup.pdf

 

[FDJ2]

Litigation Update

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The March 6, 2006 RJDC Litigation Update can now be downloaded from the RJDC's web site. This update includes:​

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• Start of Depositions Signals New Chapter in ALPA's History

Yawn, ALPA has been deposed before.

• ALPA Amnesia Syndrome Reaches Epidemic Proportions

You can't remember what you didn't do.

• Much Ado About Nothing

That sums up the RJDC lawsuit.

• The Legal Dictionary: Conflict of Interest

Yawn, the Supreme Court recognize that Unions often have a conflict of interest and that a conflict of interest does not equate to a failure of fair representation. [/quote]

Wow, two and a half years after barely surviving a summary motion to dismiss the RJDC has managed to get to depositions. Good job.

 

[General Lee]

The RJDC is full of LAZY pilots who don't want to start over at another carrier, don't want to give up their left seat, don't want to give up their 4 weeks of vacation in Myrtle Beach every year, and maybe couldn't get hired at another carrier, period.

If you want larger airplanes, you need to apply to CAL, they are hiring.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ohplease!]

The RJDC is full of LAZY pilots who don't want to start over at another carrier, don't want to give up their left seat, don't want to give up their 4 weeks of vacation in Myrtle Beach every year, and maybe couldn't get hired at another carrier, period.

If you want larger airplanes, you need to apply to CAL, they are hiring.


Bye Bye--General Lee

being lazy has absolutely nothing to do with not wanting to give up those things. I'm not an RJDC supporter but, I'd rather spend the time with my children than start over. I don't need to pump up my own low self esteem the way you do.

In 40 years when I die, it won't matter how big my bank account is. It will matter that I made a difference in my childrens lives.

 

[nethan]

That doesn't seem to be what the RJDC is about. Ohplease, you could stay where ever you are now and spend time with your kids and could fly a 1900 while doing it. Brining up pay and QOL have nothing to do with what sort of airframe you fly. the RJDC guys want bigger shinier planes (who says SJS is limited to newbies) and are willing to screw over mainline guys AND the future of many regional pilots to do it. I have heard time and time again that the worst reserve schedule at a major is better then a good line at a regional. Dunno how true that really is, but it sure sounds good from where I am sitting now.

 

[ohplease!]

I have heard time and time again that the worst reserve schedule at a major is better then a good line at a regional.

I guess that all depends on your priorities. Like I said, I don't wupport the RJDC. Never have and never will. But, I do get tired of the blowhards like this general lee jerk.

 

[regionaltard]

The RJDC is full of LAZY pilots who don't want to start over at another carrier, don't want to give up their left seat, don't want to give up their 4 weeks of vacation in Myrtle Beach every year, and maybe couldn't get hired at another carrier, period.

If you want larger airplanes, you need to apply to CAL, they are hiring.


Bye Bye--General Lee

noisy orange car
your double breasted namesake
slipped through many cracks

 

[PCL_128]

Keep sending in those checks!!! After all, with 9 out of 10 claims dismissed by the judge, you're getting a great return on your investment!

 

[WSurf]

The RJDC is full of LAZY pilots who don't want to start over at another carrier, don't want to give up their left seat, don't want to give up their 4 weeks of vacation in Myrtle Beach every year, and maybe couldn't get hired at another carrier, period.
Bye Bye--General Lee

Again General, you are awarded no points here!!!! Your comment was a bit on the childish side. I would have figured a bit better from a Delta pilot!!

 

[AutoBus]

Give me a break!

From the RJ Whatever website

Issue #1: Job Losses Caused by ALPA-imposed Small Jet Restrictions
Impact: Job losses triggered principally by union-imposed small jet restrictions, not market conditions.
Examples:
1. Inability to replace obsolete aircraft with market appropriate small jets.
2. Union sanctioned diversion of small jets to other carriers.
3. Mandatory filing of new small jet positions with “mainline” pilots while obsolete aircraft are retired


What rights do you contract RJ guys think you have? All flying belongs at the mainline carrier period. You are entitled to NONE OF IT!! IT DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU!! If management chooses to contact it out to you for a while, good for you. To that extent you have a piece of the action, be greatfull while you have it. If economics make it desirable to have mainline pilots fly it (in whatever size equipment, for whatever reason) then you lose. It's not ALPA's role to defend "sub-contracted" flying, It's no different than sub-contracted aircraft cleaners if company A charges $500 to clean the aircraft, and company B charges $495, Company B gets the contract. If mainlines figures out it can do it itself for $480, guess what? Company A and B lose, so now what? does the "International Federation of Sub-Contracted Aircraft Cleaners (IFSCAC)" step in and cry foul?



Counter-points

#1 Airlines are replacing jets and switching sizes as required, small jets are not the cure all you think. With higher CASM's that RJ's feature. somtimes bigger is better, airlines are starting to learn that.

#2 Which other carriers? if you refer to mainline, whats wrong with that. Mainline is not required to use sub-contracted lift, should ALPA force them? (kind of like reverse-scope, that would be an interesting proposal)

#3 Hey they work for mainline, they flew the route before in your so-called obsolete aircraft. What all of a sudden gives you a right to it?

 

[General Lee]

I guess that all depends on your priorities. Like I said, I don't wupport the RJDC. Never have and never will. But, I do get tired of the blowhards like this general lee jerk.

Nethan is right. And, if you can't see what is going on around you by the vocal MINORITY of senior guys who could NEVER go to the right seat again (they have been in the left seat since the BANDIT), then you have your eyes shut. You may not agree with what I say, but you know I AM RIGHT. And, I never said anything about staying away from your kids. The longer you stay at your regional, the less time you have to try to get to a larger airline, get off reserve sooner and see more of your kids, and maybe make some more money to pay for their educations. Southwest, CAL, Fedex, UPS, and others are hiring that could allow you to do that. But, you don't want to spend 1 or 2 years on reserve (probably less). That is your choice.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Again General, you are awarded no points here!!!! Your comment was a bit on the childish side. I would have figured a bit better from a Delta pilot!!

I am allowed to give my opinion as always, and this one is SPOT ON. These guys are lazy.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[surplus1]

I have heard time and time again that the worst reserve schedule at a major is better then a good line at a regional. Dunno how true that really is, but it sure sounds good from where I am sitting now.

It is written: Thou shalt believe only 1/2 of what thou seest and NONE of what thou hearest.

 

[surplus1]

I would have figured a bit better from a Delta pilot!!

Apparently you haven't completed "DL Pilots 101".

Acoording to The Book of General Lee, Chapter 2, verse 1, - the 2300 real DL pilots have jumped ship. The helm is now controlled by the group formerly in "steerage" [-- a section of inferior accommodations in a passenger ship for passengers [earning] the lowest wages]. They love to "pipe" themselves.

When you have no captains on the bridge and you give the helm to novice seamen, the ship is in danger of foundering on the reefs of Ego and Arrogance.

Recommendation: Drink less DL grog.

 

[WSurf]

These guys are lazy.
Bye Bye--General Lee

Explain? And if your explanation is good, I might award you a point!

 

[WSurf]

Apparently you haven't completed "DL Pilots 101".

Acoording to The Book of General Lee, Chapter 2, verse 1, - the 2300 real DL pilots have jumped ship. The helm is now controlled by the group formerly in "steerage" [-- a section of inferior accommodations in a passenger ship for passengers [earning] the lowest wages]. They love to "pipe" themselves.

When you have no captains on the bridge and you give the helm to novice seamen, the ship is in danger of foundering on the reefs of Ego and Arrogance.

Recommendation: Drink less DL grog.

Nice!! Surplus I award you 2 points! General should learn to be more creative with his post. "The guys are Lazy" is a kinda Kindergarden in nature! Now does this book 'DL Pilots 101' have a section in it that tells there pilots to troll the regional message boards to help boost ones ego?