Lighters BANNED beyond security!

[LarryinTN]

Egypt Air 990. The F/O apparently crashed the 767 into the Atlantic on purpose.

 

[atrdriver]

Those examples show that we can not claim that we are beyond reproach just becuase we are airline pilots.

Beyond reproach or not, take a 121 pilot through security, take away ALL his belongings, make him walk to his plane in his underwear, and if he doens't want the plane to get to it's destination it won't. That's the point that these people can't get through their heads. A pilot doesn't need anything to assist him if he is "he!! bent" on causing destruction.

 

[atrdriver]

So, just quit smoking and STFU...


Simple.

Well, lets see. It's a legal activity. Most smokers do so because they enjoy it. So it's legal, enjoyable to whose who engage in it. I don't think that the TSA has the right or the authority to ask me to quit smoking. I like smoking, and i'll be d@mned if i'm going to quit because of some idiot regulation on lighters. My entire carry on bag may be filled with matches and cigarettes, and that of course will be much safer then allowing me to carry one bic in my pocket.

 

[walshsfly]

ISimilarly, it's hard to justify lighters in the cabin when the absense of a lighter was likely the difference that saved the AAL flight from Richard Reid's attempted bombing. He had trouble lighting the fuses on his shoe-bombs with the match and the smell of the matches alerted the flight attendants and nearby passengers.

Its not a lighter that he needed it was the mudd he walked through that he needed to avoid.

I guess its ok to carry C-4 as long as you don't have an ignition source. How about we allow lighters and ban C-4?

 

[LarryinTN]

Beyond reproach or not, take a 121 pilot through security, take away ALL his belongings, make him walk to his plane in his underwear, and if he doens't want the plane to get to it's destination it won't.

You assume that a pilot is either trustworth or suicidal--nothing in between.

 

[LarryinTN]

My entire carry on bag may be filled with matches and cigarettes, and that of course will be much safer then allowing me to carry one bic in my pocket.

You can't fill your carry on with matches. There is a rather small limit to the number of match books that can be carried. (Four?) That limit has been in place for some time.

 

[LarryinTN]

How about we allow lighters and ban C-4?

C4, and other explosives, are already banned. The problem is that they are very difficult to detect with current technology. Xrays and metal detectors do not detect explosives. Screeners must rely on indirect detection based on looking for unusual shapes or items which have room in which explosives might be hidden (i.e. shoes with thick soles).

 

[av8tor4239]

what if you dont go thru security when you go to work (ATL) and you are smoking in the "sterile area" say a smoking lounge on concourse C... Will they have S.W.A.T standing by to take you out...? I guess my question is, is it illegal to take a lighter through security, or is it illegal to POSSESS a lighter inside of security?

 

[av8tor4239]

I cant belive i am asking these questions.. what has this job come to?

I figure if I have a loaded pistol in my bag, I probably wont have a problem smoking my cigarettes at work.