LH may have to give up stake in Jetblue

[coogebeachhotel]

Word is that Delta is at the justice department with support to end LH stake in Jetblue. This is over a proposd alliance by LH with others in the NY market.

My guess LH sells Blues and United buys the stake.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Not so quick....

 

[coogebeachhotel]

Lufthansa should restructure JetBlue stake, says Delta
01 Dec 2008



Delta Air Lines says that Lufthansa must relinquish its seats on the board of JetBlue and restructure its 19% stake in the airline in order to get its proposed four-way joint venture with Continental, United and Air Canada approved.

In a submission to the US Department of Transportation, Delta said that Lufthansa’s investment in JetBlue will dramatically affect the New York market if the proposed anti-trust immunity is granted.

The submission said: “Lufthansa’s 19% equity investment in JetBlue, together with Lufthansa’s two seats on JetBlue’s board create an unacceptable risk of spillover if Lufthansa is simultaneously engaged in antitrust immunised competition with Continental – which also operates a large domestic hub at New York. To fully address the potential for domestic spillover, any grant of immunity should be conditional upon Lufthnsa relinquishing its two JetBlue voard seats and restructuring its investment to remove the immediate profit potential of collusive actions involving JetBlue and Continental.”

It added: “As a result of the close relationship between Lufthansa and JetBlue, the Department must evaluate the potential impact of an immunised Continental-Lufthansa alliance on the substantial competition that currently exists, and that might otherwise potentially exist in the future between Continental and JetBlue. This is not simply a domestic issue - JetBlue already provides service to eight international destinations from New York.”

 

[coogebeachhotel]

Not so quick....

Could this be a ploy to get Blues by Delta

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Me thinks so!

 

[formerdal]

Me thinks so!

I hope your wrong...why spend the money.

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

STAPLE, STAPLE, STAPLE. Just kidding. Relative sen. very good deal for JB? Doh? Good for DAL. Interesting. Which way will dalpa choose this time????

Me thinks so!

 

[ACL65PILOT]

It is all for a new terminal. Not sure if they will do it, but they do like that new terminal of theirs.
It is a lot cheaper to build a customs area than to buil a new terminal.....

 

[ACL65PILOT]

STAPLE, STAPLE, STAPLE. Just kidding. Relative sen. very good deal for JB? Doh? Good for DAL. Interesting. Which way will dalpa choose this time????

If the rumor I heard about the SLI is close to correct, It will be about as fair as it could possibly be.

 

[coogebeachhotel]

Some boys will be singing the blues......

O but wait that employment contract will cover everything right?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Ya think that is why they are working so hard for a union.
Fact is that they will be protected by Federal Law, and will come out quite well.

Looks like ALK is right sizing for something too.....

 

[PHXFLYR]

A merger with you guys,maybe?


PHXFLYR

 

[Dizel8]

If DAL is bithching about LH's stake in B6 and the DOJ agree, then there is no way in hell the DOJ will let them aquire B6.

Keep Delta your Delta.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Keep Delta your Delta.

Delta is the new US Airways.

That's so retro. Stephen Wolf even.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

My guess LH sells Blues and United buys the stake.

Can United even finance a trip to the movies with popcorn and a coke!?

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Can United even finance a trip to the movies with popcorn and a coke!?

UA: "Well I ain't payin' no fifty cents for no Coke."

JB: "Then you ain't gettin' no Coke..."

 

[rumrunner300]

Can United even finance a trip to the movies with popcorn and a coke!?

Now I hate UAL as much as the next guy, but technically, they could write a check for JBLU and have enough cash left over to do it again.

......

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Now I hate UAL as much as the next guy, but technically, they could write a check for JBLU and have enough cash left over to do it again.

......

But what would they have left to give their management team?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[rumrunner300]

But what would they have left to give their management team?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

No apologies required, I hate the corksuckers with a white-hot passion and pray for their destruction.

 

[8vATE]

Delta....

Yea... we'll get right on that...whatever you Delta management boys want.

They should be concentrating on their uniform fitting and aircraft paint shop schedule than dictating their demands to everyone else.

We'll get back to you.

 

[hoover84]

The market cap of UAL 1.15B and jetBlue 1.29B

 

[Caveman]

Delta Air Lines says that Lufthansa must relinquish its seats on the board of JetBlue ........

Well, there you have it. Delta says it, so it must be true.

 

[rumrunner300]

The market cap of UAL 1.15B and jetBlue 1.29B

I didn't say market cap, I said CASH.

Stock price factors in goodwill, of which UAL has none (after a 2.7B writedown and the inability to generate any positive energy). However, other than a stock swap, you can't buy stuff with goodwill.

 

[coogebeachhotel]

Cash is King and UAL has a boat load of it. 3.5B to me exact.

Instant JFK ballgame to block DAL,NWA

Jetblue is still priced as a growth company. Hence the market cap. But no growth.

For good measure add in the fact LUV is coming to LGA.

 

[jws717]

Word is that Delta is at the justice department with support to end LH stake in Jetblue. This is over a proposd alliance by LH with others in the NY market.

My guess LH sells Blues and United buys the stake.

United is so broke they can't afford to buy Mesa stock. Forget about JB.

 

[coogebeachhotel]

Overweight -
Price 10.69 on Nov. 17 by Morgan Stanley
Target: 46.
Demand trends are slowing, but United Airlines' capacity cuts are
industry-leading. Fuel hedges are unlikely to cause a liquidity
squeeze. The ancillary revenue opportunity for '09 is large, at $1.2
billion and growing. Ticket and bag fees represent $850 million in
estimated revenue in 2009. UAUA is cutting about 7% of international
capacity in '09. The antitrust-immunized alliance with Continental is
in the home stretch of the regulatory-approval process. We [believe]
UAUA can achieve (at least) mid-cycle margins in 2009 on significant
capacity cuts and a large pullback in fuel costs. The market is
discounting an outlook that's far too bearish, in our view. UAUA's
liquidity position is decent and improving, despite a poor credit
environment. With a solid risk-reward skew and an improving free-cash-
flow outlook, we believe the shares are very compelling at current
levels and expect a rally by early 1Q09. Market cap: $1.6 billion.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Yea... we'll get right on that...whatever you Delta management boys want.

They should be concentrating on their uniform fitting and aircraft paint shop schedule than dictating their demands to everyone else.

We'll get back to you.

All your (JB) aircraft/routes are belong to us!