Lets not get out of hand here.

[Conquest Driver]

Ok guys,

Look all of you will need or have needed a Lawyer's help from time to time. If you ever get a violation or are involved in an accident or incident in your career you will or have needed the help of legal counsel. Also most of us are divorced or will be at some point and by the way everyone flights on here I am sure some of these will not be amicable. Throwing stones in a glass house is never a good policy. Not trying to be preachy but Attorneys have saved a good many people from unfair outcomes in their lives. Yes some legal procedings are not fair or correct in peoples eyes but many are important and good and serve a great purpose for every person in the USA. Civil rights comes to mind, Brown vs Board of Education, etc, etc


CD

 

[8HourPilot]

CD,

Not quite sure what you are referring to, but if it has to do with that post about 40 year old comair pilots, that guy was out of line, it actually seemed as if he was taunting everyone. I cant imagine you were sticking up for him.

 

[DoinTime]

Ok guys,

Look all of you will need or have needed a Lawyer's help from time to time. If you ever get a violation or are involved in an accident or incident in your career you will or have needed the help of legal counsel. Also most of us are divorced or will be at some point and by the way everyone flights on here I am sure some of these will not be amicable. Throwing stones in a glass house is never a good policy. Not trying to be preachy but Attorneys have saved a good many people from unfair outcomes in their lives. Yes some legal procedings are not fair or correct in peoples eyes but many are important and good and serve a great purpose for every person in the USA. Civil rights comes to mind, Brown vs Board of Education, etc, etc


CD

The only reason you need yourself a lawer in any of the situations cited above is because there is a blood thirsty lawer with the sole intention of legaly stealing everything you own working for the other side. Its unfortunate that we need lawers to fight lawers.

 

[JJJ]

I thought you were, or are, going to try and sell us pre-paid legal services.

 

[jarhead]

conquest driver

Some afterthoughts to your post:

I don't believe that one needs to know how to spell Lawyer (or any other word for that matter) to voice an opinion, here or anywhere else. Why did you even bring it up? Are you the spelling policeman?

I also doubt very much that this fine upstanding lawyer was just "Messing" with us. Those were his true colors, and the world saw him for what he is....a parasite on society, with no real value to anyone but his own, wonderful, self.

If he were just "messin' with us", it points out again, what a wonderful gift he is to the world, and all of humanity.

 

[jarhead]

Anyone know why the original thread started by Flylawyer disappeared?

Curious ????

 

[Conquest Driver]

Thoughts on your reply

Just remeber all that when you need one of these "parasites" to help you. I know many pilots who hated attorneys and after their legal procedings, they sang an entirely different tune about these "parasites". The $$ in their pocket or the violation being expunged from their record changed their preception. It's just like bashing management or the government, if you don't have all the info (which most people don't) its easy to make a quick judement and decide to bash them,

Just something to think about, not saying you will.


CD

 

[jarhead]

CD

While I am sure there are some decent people in the legal profession, from my personal experience, the one's I've come in contact with on a personal basis (not professional) often seem to be rather shallow people, without much to talk about on broader matters. This guy (Flylawyer) is an example of what I consider to be the very worst of what his profession exemplifies. IF, I ever needed a lawyer (for a will, a divorce, a contract to be drawn up) you can be sure that guy would not be on my short list for selection.

From your profile, Conquest Driver, I see you just turned 21 years old, and yet you claim 3900 hours of flight time. That would be an extraordinary amount of flight hours, for such tender years. If true, I would expect that you had a lot of "help" to pay for those hours, since you would have been to young to be hired to fly all those hours. That leads me to believe that you had some "assistance" with the money to pay for the air time. Could it be that you come from a family of some means, and perhaps a parent of yours is a lawyer?

I am trying to find a rational reason for you to defend this parasite, by siting law that brought about civil rights legislation. There is the big disconnect for me.

 

[Conquest Driver]

25 not 21

I am 25 not 21,

I was hired on at Piedmont at 21. Yes I had a nice family who paid for my primary training. However, after that, I flight instructed and flew skydivers with the rest of the world. I upgraded to Captain at 23. I have a little over 4,000 hours now but that is not very much considering I have been flying since 94-95. I grew up in an aviation family (my Dad is private pilot) so don't go throwing rocks at me, I have worked very hard just like everyone else on the is forum. I never paid for my training other than my Cessna 150/172 primary training.

Many of my friends and family are attorneys and it is somewhat annoying that people like you attack them and make broad generalizations about people you don't know and or understand.

Attacking me personally for my opinion is really low by the way, that is something a "parasite" would do.

CD

 

[jarhead]

CD

I don't read anything I said into an "attack" on you. They were simply questions put to you in the most civil way I could muster. Sorry about my math mistake....never was a strong suit of miine.

The attack I make, and stand by, is the stuff I feel about the poster, Flylawer, as an individual lawyer. I also stated than in "general" I find "most" laywers I've run across, to be rather shallow people. I also stated I was sure not all lawyers fit my personal observations, but all I have to go by, is what I have observed. We all draw our conclusions, in some part, from our life experience, as well as books and news accounts.

Please don't feel I am attacking you, I am not. I was only asking questions.

I have nothing against you or your fine family for getting you into and through flight schools. CD, I did the same for my own son, when he was in college and various FBO's getting his various tickets. He, by the way, is now 31, and a captain at Comair, with around 5000 hours. Why would I attack someone who parralled the way my own son had family support.

What I did do, was ask if your mom or dad were a lawyer, given your rather lonely voice on these threads, coming to the defense of a particularly offensive lawyer. Just trying to find out where you are coming from on that.

I commend you for your progression in flight. Keep up the good work.

 

[Conquest Driver]

Thank You

I wish you and your family the best. Comair is a great airline.


CD

 

[vclean]

The reason you may need a good lawyer is because the legal system has evolved into a self-perpetuating monster. The legal system is created by legislators (mostly lawyers); prosecuted by lawyers; defendents represented by lawyers; judged by lawyers; changes and new laws instituted by.... lawyers. Full circle. I think the 70's started the legal landslide. The 80's brought in the era of "it's not my fault, I was raised by bad parents". The 90's brought us "it's someone elses fault", and the total lack of personal responsibility. No matter, you can visit your local friendly, helpful, and genuinely concerned lawyer to find some way to "get yours" (minus 33%).

BTW, none of our friends are lawyers or law enforcement. I they tend to stick to their own. They have little trust in others.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

"BTW, none of our friends are lawyers or law enforcement. I they tend to stick to their own. They have little trust in others."

Correct,
As a former full time, Deputy Sheriff there are 2 categories, Us and them
Us= sworn L.E.O.s
them= everybody else, 'specially laywers.
PBR
P.S. You'all are still them!

 

[DoinTime]

Correct,
As a former full time, Deputy Sheriff there are 2 categories, Us and them
Us= sworn L.E.O.s
them= everybody else, 'specially laywers.
PBR
P.S. You'all are still them!

By defining them did you mean: everybody else, 'specially lawyers AND the Duke boys?

You didn't by chance work with with Roscoe or Boss Hog did you?

 

[jarhead]

Flylawyer

Just for the heck of it, I did a search for past postings originated by this guy. Seems he asks a lot of questions on the board about regulations, i.e., as a friend of his has an upcoming interview, and one post even referred to an interview he even had coming up. Seems as a bit of a fraud here, as he said in his thread about 40 year old pilots (now gone) that he would never apply for a regiaonal job, as he makes so f'n much money being a lawyer.

My conclusion, is that a) the guy's a liar, and b) he's just trying to get information for free, to use in a lawsuit.

Of course, Flylawyer can always start up a new identity on these boards, and abandon his Flylawyer ID, but I would advise no one to respond to this parasite in the future.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

"By defining them did you mean: everybody else, 'specially lawyers AND the Duke boys?"

"them"= everyone who does not wear a badge full time as a paid peace officer.
That would include laywers and the Duke boys unless they are L.E.O.s, paid for being peace officers.
I rode shotgun with Roscoe, and Boss Hogg was always around.
Don't feel bad, I still get along better with cops than any other group of people.
Ola
PBR"
P.S. Notice I said "group".

 

[WrightAvia]

As a former full time, Deputy Sheriff there are 2 categories, Us and them
Us= sworn L.E.O.s
them= everybody else, 'specially laywers.
PBR
P.S. You'all are still them!

Hey pbr...getting fired from the sheriff's office for DWI or some charge of moral turpitude, doesn't mean you still get to use the jingles.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Hey,
wright, you are wrong, and yes, you will always be one of them.
PBR