Let's hear from Big Brown

[tabord]

Haven't heard from the folks at UPS in a while. Any chance there might be interviews before the end of the year?

 

[AutoTransfer]

I too would like to hear what the rumormill is kicking up.
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[Capt TedStriker]

Rumors...Rumors...Rumors

Rumors are just that.... RUMORS.

But fun to talk about to say the least...

Lets talk fact first... I talked to P.M. in HR and was told that there are already 80 candidates in the pool for hiring if/when hiring starts. Other facts... UPS will take delivery of 10 A-300 next year along with 3 MD-11 this Fall and 5 MD-11 in 2003. Other facts... We have parked 15 727's and plan on parking addition aircraft after peak this year... which could include the DC-8... what this means to those of you on the street.... Not great news... because they are downsizing fleets with 3 crew in favor of 2 crew aircraft.

OK... now to the rumors.... One side of the training center said that they were "planning" for 250-350 newhires to go through school house... and the other rumor was that there was going to be no new hires in 2003 (possibly until new contract is settled between UPS and IPA).

As far as hiring goes... look for a drastic increase after the next contract is hammered out as we have nearly 100 ropes on the panel waiting to retire but are opting to get paid as FE for a couple of years until better A plan is agreed upon.

Brown to the bone...

 

[Capt TedStriker]

Parking Aircraft when taking deliveries.

PatMack....

Why park the 727's???.... they are fully paid for/ none on lease.... have been zero timed when the Rolls Royce engine upgrade was done.... they have EFIS up front and also HGS/HUD fro CAT III..... really nice planes....

Good question... I thought the same thing until about 6 months ago when I was called out on Reserve to rescue a broken A-300...

To do the job they put two 727's on the trip.... to do the same job, or less than the A-300. But I saw the big picture when I was in the crew van on the way to the hotel.... SIX crew required to haul less than the TWO crewed A-300. Also from an engine point of view (maintenance costs).... 6 engines vis. 2 engines.... Parking aircraft is purely economic... from the perspective of efficiency. Yes we can make money hauling trash in the 727 and DC8 but can we make as much money as possible.... This coming from a company that makes in excess of $4 Billion in profits each year (even in economic downturn).... greater than all the profits of the majors combined.


Brown.

 

[rican]

ups not hiring in 2003

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Thu, Sep 05 2002
UPS No Longer Accepting Resumes
United Parcel Service (UPS) announced today that it is no longer accepting resumes for pilot positions. At this time, the carrier is not hiring or interviewing. UPS is not forecasting any 2003 pilot hiring, and information on the Flight Officer position has been removed from the UPS employment Web site at www.upsjobs.com. Pilots may continue to access information on the UPS pilot hiring hotline at 800-241-2357.

Posted 9/5/2002 1:40 PM