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Just to reiterate a previous post...and beat a presently dead horse, I sure hope DAL opens up by the end of the year. Although I would have to commute, I could do it affordably, and on my on terms, to DAL. I could make it work, with just a bit more pain to LAX. Otherwise, I have to really rethink the numbers.

Waiting on the interview with fingers crossed...
 
Bear with us, VVJM, as we're having a thought fixation on DAL. It got pulled a lot faster than I expected it to, seems as though you guys think so, too. Now it just doesn't seem to me that they've hired enough new pilots to have filled a domicile, yet. Sooo there has to be more to it. The 2 of the 5 which are most affordable were already popular with NJ pilots for that reason. If memory serves me, when they were negotiating the failed TA (popularly called the POSTA) the company wanted even less than 5 domiciles. Only the coastal cities. (If I'm recalling this incorrectly, I trust the NJ pilots will chime in.) Pilots complained, and to win votes they added CMH and DAL to the list. There was talk, briefly, of adding DEN--another interior city, makes sense, right? So looking back, they were never really too interested in CMH and DAL to begin with. I think they just got used to the idea of the 5 while the contract battle waged on.

It all comes back around to the pathetic FO wages. Fewer lived near the big, expensive cities because they couldn't afford to. They want pilots in those places, and yes, I can see that makes sense in the frac industry. So now they're trying to "force" pilots to go there. Problem is, they didn't increase the FO pay enough to make it an attractive option to any but those who were already in the area. I don't like what they're doing to aviation families and I hope their system falls like a house of cards. Speaking of cards..send them in. It's the only chance you have to fight back against things like this.
 
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NJW,

I'm hanging. It could all change by the end of the year, when I could start. To speak metaphorically, as you are so fond of doing, I'm just throwing out some seeds, where I can, in hopes that something will take root.

Trust all is going well on your other case...

265
 
Thanks for asking. The audio tapes have been sent to the deception expert....lieseeker.com.
I'm finishing my observations and analysis to turn in.

We're fighting on! We'll start pushing for forensic test results. I don't have to be a frac pilot to understand foot-dragging by those too arrogant to admit they messed up. I was told in Jan "they're gonna get on that". That's why I can identify with those who deal with broken promises. But when you know the truth, you can't back down. No matter what the other side does.
 
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I emailed in a resume at least 3 weeks ago, and haven't heard a peep. I was getting ready to send another one but now I'm not so sure, because I wanted DAL as a domicile. However, I could also live with PBI. Anybody have any idea?

My times:

3000 TT
1700 multi
1600 jet
400 jet PIC
CE-500 typed
Current corporate
 
Capn...you have othing to lose by interviewing.......Heck, if they offer you a domicile you don't like you can always turn it down and tell them why....if they decide to open it up again you may be one of the fiirst ones they call for it considering they were going to hire you inthe first place.

I don't see the harm in going?????? It doesn't appear they know what's going on either, alot of things can change between now and then.
 
Arch - can't wait to hear how your interview went and what they tell you about LAX. After my next Baja trip I'll email Derinda and ask what the plans are for the future - this may spell it out. I REALLY hope it's a case by case basis!!

Good luck and we're all sure you'll do great!!

Baja
 
Something to keep in mind about these domiciles.

DAL or CMH or whatever may be closed today, and the others available. But as soon as the available today domiciles get heavy with newhires, then they will close those and open the others back up. And round and round the open/closed wheel will turn.

They are planning on hiring a lot of pilots, they cannot have filled any one domicile at this point. Doesn't make sense. That's just the way I see it.

Don't fret over what is being offered today, wait and see what is offered if you get the job. If you don't like it, tell them so. I would be willing to bet that the above post that you will likely be on their list for that opening will be reality. Makes thier life easier.

YOMV
 
If they play games with the pilots' futures--now you see it, now you don't-- I don't think their lives will be easier. They will have to follow the rules they already agreed to. That's what a contract is for. And I'm quite sure they have been reminded of that.


I'm with DO. Go to your interviews and ask for the domicile that works best for you. Ask what their system is for assigning pilots. These are critical issues for your families that should not be made on a whim, especially someone else's!
 
It could all be a temporary thing with all those Independence guys they picked up. Perhaps they were grouped around certain regions and flooded those domiciles for now.
 

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