legs/day at SWA?

[LearAv8r]

You probably would have got another $200,00.00 if management didn't take those huge bonus'....

Deploy parachute!!!!

 

[GuppyWN]

General,

Captain pay for 6 year guys is $186.45/hr. Straight time. No fuzzy math.

Gup

 

[SWA/FO]

Also, you are forgetting that our current 12 year 737 Captains got a check from our BK claim sale for about $350,000. One check, and after taxes and filling their 2006/2007 401Ks, they probably got $200,000 in cash. And, our pension payment is due soon, probably another $100,000. Can you add that to our lower wages? We also get an 11% raise each month thanks to those 401Ks being full and the company still having to contribute 11% (9% for the DC fund and 2% matching for our 401K)---so we also have an 11% raise to that same pay rate. Please add that and see how that goes.

Just think if Southwest went through bankruptcy!!! We would all get checks in the mail! Probably 1,000,000 each. With all that money why did Delta go bankrupt in the first place? What are they printing money is ATL? Is this what that dude is talking about on Sunday mornings? "I just sit at home and the checks roll in."

Great money like that what did you give up, besides your future?

 

[scoreboard]

How long, in reality, could it take you to make $198 an hour Bye Bye--General Pee

Dude, you airlines going to be bankrupt AGAIN before you ever see those rates. Good luck with that.

 

[328dude]

To much fuzzy math over there. Dosen't help the new hire one bit. Let's see, I got a check for $25 dollars in gift certificates to Barnes and Nobles. Can I add that as income too?

Wow, fly 8 hours in an airplane watching the autopilot and sharing bunkbeds, just to see Paris? No thanks. Who changes the sheets over there? Certainly not the holy grail Delta pilot's....

 

[RollinOnMy22sYo]

We already know you guys get naked in the cockpit for new stews...... And for newhires at DL it will be less than the 9-10 years now at DL (thanks to no growth for 5 years after 9-11).

Yeah, the water is still blue over the atlantic, and the babes still walk near the Arc de Triumph in Paris. Are Lubbock, Armadillo, Midland, and Harlingen still holes?


Bye Bye--General Lee

I've spent enough time in Paris AND LBB to tell you in no uncertain terms, the women in LBB are by FAR more attractive, friendlier, sweeter, and practice far, FAR better personal hygiene than the women in Paris.

Parisian girls: Body hair, 3 day old underwear and cigarettes that could double as insecticide, all doused in Chanel perfume. But on the plus side, their 3 day old underwear is generally very stylish.

9 - 10 yr upgrades? Maybe so, but I've got a good friend at DAL who's been there 7+ years, and is bouncing back and forth between line holder and reserve as a 737 FO.

 

[On Your Six]

Dude, you airlines going to be bankrupt AGAIN before you ever see those rates. Good luck with that.

Great debating effort. Thanks for wasting our time.

I know several SWA pilots and most are happy to be there (no surprise) - but many are either tired or bored by now after several years. That type of flying will do that to a person - it is not an old-timers game. I agree that GL is over-zealous and a bit ridiculous at times, but I find many of these responses to be more emotional than factual - and that says a lot.............

 

[General Lee]

Just think if Southwest went through bankruptcy!!! We would all get checks in the mail! Probably 1,000,000 each. With all that money why did Delta go bankrupt in the first place? What are they printing money is ATL? Is this what that dude is talking about on Sunday mornings? "I just sit at home and the checks roll in."

Great money like that what did you give up, besides your future?

See, you really don't understand the situation, and that makes you look dumb. Delta issued new stock claims to creditors, and we were one of the largest creditors since we gave up the most compared to any group of employees (overall). We, along with all of the other creditors (Boeing, PBGC, Coke) got 60 cents on the dollar for our shares, compared with United creditors getting about 25 cents on the dollar. That is how we did so well. We also negotiated for our pension dump, besides getting a new DC program giving us 9% of our monthly take home pay in a seperate fund, in our own names.

And did we really give up our future? We got set raises, our company is in better shape, and we have another shot at getting a nice chunk of that "lost money" back in the future. We want you to keep your high pay, so we can compare it to our 777 Captain pay (compare it to your smaller 737 pay) and then go from there. Keep it up pardner!


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Dude, you airlines going to be bankrupt AGAIN before you ever see those rates. Good luck with that.

Really, that was dumb. We cleaned house financially and have more cash in the bank then you do. And, the LCC onslaught will squeeze you guys too---have fun with that.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

I've spent enough time in Paris AND LBB to tell you in no uncertain terms, the women in LBB are by FAR more attractive, friendlier, sweeter, and practice far, FAR better personal hygiene than the women in Paris.

Parisian girls: Body hair, 3 day old underwear and cigarettes that could double as insecticide, all doused in Chanel perfume. But on the plus side, their 3 day old underwear is generally very stylish.

9 - 10 yr upgrades? Maybe so, but I've got a good friend at DAL who's been there 7+ years, and is bouncing back and forth between line holder and reserve as a 737 FO.

I am glad you think the women in LBB are cuter than those in Paris. I love those models in LBB-- they do great walking down the catwalk, of dung. Good, you go get um!

Our junior Captain in NYC is a 98 hire. We are getting 13-15 more 757s from AA (the first two just arrived, at two per month), 6 777LRs next year alone (do you know how many people have to fly those since they all do ultra long haul flying? 4 pilots per flight--2 Captains and 2 FOs), 20 737-700s within the next couple years, and maybe 20 or so MD90s from China if the deal goes through. A lot of upgrading could happen soon. I am waiting for my 738 upgrade, and then the 757/767, and then the 787 if we get them, and 777, and Space Shuttle, etc.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Boy...didn't this one degenerate rather quickly....

 

[General Lee]

To much fuzzy math over there. Dosen't help the new hire one bit. Let's see, I got a check for $25 dollars in gift certificates to Barnes and Nobles. Can I add that as income too?

Wow, fly 8 hours in an airplane watching the autopilot and sharing bunkbeds, just to see Paris? No thanks. Who changes the sheets over there? Certainly not the holy grail Delta pilot's....

SWA/FO was trying to compare his 6 year FO payscale to mine. So, you got a $25 dollar gift certificate from Barnes and Nobles (for Harry Potter probably)? Wow. It is hard for you to fathom that I got $170,000 from a claim sale. (the pilots were creditors since we gave up more pay than other employees) The USAir guys got a $4400 bonus check for Xmas according to one of them I talked to. I then told him about our senior Captains getting $400,000 checks (without the upcoming Pension dump check). He nearly flipped his lid. If this is hard for you to understand then I can easily lay it out for you again.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Boy...didn't this one degenerate rather quickly....

I have to respond to all of the completely idiotic responses I get. And, as you know, I can keep it going if they want me to. I would prefer to stop. This thread was just too good to pass up without one response. Look at the title.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Whataburger]

a few questions for those at swa. how many legs/day do you guys average?(3-4 system wide. Dallas folks maby 4/day with 5-6 on one day) how many equivelant flight hours do you average/month (82-86)? is it common to have a lighter final day so the commute is easier home (yes, my final day gets done at 12:30 pm this week)? thanks

Average line has about 17-18 days off with 102 trips for pay. It is very simple to turn that line into 17 days off and 110-115 TFP. I am in year two ($77.45/trip), average 17 days off with never less than 16 days off, and 115TFP. The blank lines I will bid for August will guarantee me 18 or 19 days off. If you want 15 days off, you can easily get 130-140 TFP. Hope this helps. BTW, ID card and health bennies from day one.

 

[nimtz]

I've spent enough time in Paris AND LBB to tell you in no uncertain terms, the women in LBB are by FAR more attractive, friendlier, sweeter, and practice far, FAR better personal hygiene than the women in Paris.

You forgot knocked up by 22 then bitter/fat/ divorced by 32...