Legal to operate a jet without an endorsement for High Performance?

[airplane wizard]

My original log book was stolen. What can I do to prove my High alt and High pef. endorsements?

Did you have a seperate HP rating under the new rules or were you grandfathered under the old rules for just a complex sign off which would combine a complex/hp endorsement?

 

[MMO 0.705]

This also falls under the realm of the operations manual of the air carrier. Under 121/135, you comply with the air carrier's training program.

 

[epic!]

Aha! So what about turboprops?

i was wondering about this too

 

[Jar Jar]

LoL that would put about 30-40% of regional airline pilots out of action.. That'd be stellar.

 

[crj567]

So according to the FAA, an F-16 is not a high performance aircraft??

If guys with an F-16 checkout convert their ratings, they will have no multi-engine priviledges (if, for instance -they flew a T038 and F-16.) I know people who were in similar circumstances and needed to go rent a Seneca or Cessna 340 for a couple of hours to get their "centerline thrust" restriction removed.

-Interesting question about the HP endorsement, though. I am not sure what the correct answer would be. I would bet you would get 8 different answers from 3 or 4 FSDOs, though.

 

[Propsync]

At least. BTW- The T-38 is a twin. F-5 and T-38's were twins, the F-20 was a variant single (however I think they only made a few for demos, remember seeing a pic with Yeager).

 

[keebird]

At least. BTW- The T-38 is a twin. F-5 and T-38's were twins, the F-20 was a variant single (however I think they only made a few for demos, remember seeing a pic with Yeager).

They may be twins but according to the FAA, most twin-engine military fighters are "centerline thrust" only due to an aircraft certification technicality.
Read the last page of AC61-89.

 

[Mud Eagle]

So according to the FAA, an F-16 is not a high performance aircraft??

In order to fly an F-16 that was civilian owned and operated, you would need an Experimental Type Rating, which would fill all those requirements.

 

[Mud Eagle]

They may be twins but according to the FAA, most twin-engine military fighters are "centerline thrust" only due to an aircraft certification technicality.
Read the last page of AC61-89.

Doesn't matter. The FAA still issues a multiengine land rating, but on the back side it has the centerline thrust restriction.

Removal of that restriction is essentially a flight in which you go fly a Vmc demo with a DE.

 

[keebird]

Doesn't matter. The FAA still issues a multiengine land rating, but on the back side it has the centerline thrust restriction.

Removal of that restriction is essentially a flight in which you go fly a Vmc demo with a DE.

So it does matter.
crj567 pointed out the irony that guys with a multiengine land rating and lots of T-38 time had to go rent a Seneca to get that restriction removed.