Learjet Question

[EX_CV580FR8Dawg]

I second that Meister,

Im flying 24Bs on-demand charter right now. Lots of fun to fly and a blast when light on fuel and no load. 10,000k/min is realistic, although as you said, not sustainable, but what a fun ride for the first 10k

As far as A/P? what A/P, we have them there, but would make a better boat anchor than anything else....Always handflying them at 410 is a joy.

As far as fuel mgt goes, the old saying is to declare min fuel as soon as you close the door!

 

[Bob]

I've got 5,300 hrs in 25D, 35 and 55. I typed in the 35 and flew all three; rotated year to year on recurrent training. If you've never flown the 20 series, going to them from the 50 is quite an eye opener as far as squirliness is concerned. Fuel planning will be a challenge, too. In the 55 you set N1 on takeoff, in the 20 you set EPR.

If you're going from one to the other without prior experience, get some dual time. You may be legal, but that doesn't mean you'll be safe.

 

[Timebuilder]

You may be legal, but that doesn't mean you'll be safe.

So true!!!

 

[Rick1128]

EPR

Most of the EPR gauges are inaccurate and unusable. Besides even if the seat is completely down, you can't see them. Most of the folks I fly with use EGT and RPM to set power for TO. I use fuel flow for most of the other power settings.

As for fuel burn, if you are conservative and plan the flight properly, the 25 will normally do three hours without too much problem. If you have a good one, over three hours is possible. But you need to know how to fly efficiently.

 

[EX_CV580FR8Dawg]

Well put Rick,

I know in our 24, the EPRs dont work, last time they worked was probably in 1968 I know I have had a few legs that were just over 3 hrs and landed with IFR reserves, weather was great and had it been anything other, we would have broken it up in to two legs....fun plane to fly though.

 

[cherokee]

[slickmagneto said:
"HS125 1A to 800. Nothing alike but appearance, same type."

Why would they be the same type rating if they are nothing alike?
]

I would have to disagree with you on this one. I fly 600s 700s and 800s and they are all quite similar. Yes the 600 and older models with the Viper engines are different but all 3 I fly have essentially the same engine (TFE 731). The systems are very similar. Yes a few changes but nothing major. Even the 1A and 400 are basically very similar with a different engine. Even then differences training is enough to teach you.

 

[Bob]

"Most of the EPR gauges are inaccurate and unusable" - but EPR is the criteria for setting TO power and is an engine operating limitation for T.O. and Max Cont.

Setting fuel flow is fine as long as you have well matched engines but can penalize your most efficient engine.

 

[Ditch-LRDriver]

Lear Jet

Don't forget, the spoilerons help noticeably on landings and 'slow' flight. Something us 20 series drivers don't have.

 

[F/O]

AviateU is correct about the reason for the new airspeed limitations on the 35. For RVSM they rip out the old pitot static system and install a Rosemount system.

Going to WestStar for RVSM in Sep, maybe see ya there..........

 

[Timebuilder]

WestStar did a great job on a 35 for us. Enjoy.