Lear 60 baggage locker

[ultrarunner]

Ok, so preliminary flight tests have been conducted. But Lear 60 operators that are even remotely considering this baggage locker need to UNITE!

1. Ball-park figures are somewhere approaching $250,000

2. It's going to be significantly larger than that of the units on the 30 series....(not a good thing for APU airplanes with an already aft-CG.

3. Initial reports indicate there will be NO change in ZFW or MTOGW.



So, think about this for a minute....

An EOW equipped 60 with an APU has a BOW north of 15,000 lbs. This baggage pod I suspect will easily add an additional 100 to 200 lbs of "dead weight" to the BOW.

What good is the ability to carry more crapolo if we're gonna gross out even sooner, in addtion to going out the rear-end. Since you know darn well, the same number of our passengers are gonna show up with more STUFF, since they just spend a quarter million on the baggage pod!

So, I propose that this POS baggage pod will score some big points IF:

1. We get a NET-MINIMUM increase in MTOGW of 500 lbs. Period. NOT negotiable.

2. A corresponding 500 lb increase in MZFW.

Anything less coming from a company like Raisbeck would be an incredible disappointment.

Carry on....

 

[SpeedRestricted]

2. It's going to be significantly larger than that of the units on the 30 series....(not a good thing for APU airplanes with an already aft-CG.

Lear 60's have a forward CG problem not aft. The APU helps, as will the locker.

 

[ultrarunner]

lots of gas and folks in the back, and it can get pretty aft

 

[LJ45]

really? the passengers don't move the CG forward?

 

[fisherpilot]

a 60 with an apu you better watch your aft CG when carrying a light pax load. It is pretty tough to top off with an APU. It can be done, but your load has to be right and you are at the aft CG limit

 

[LJ45]

a 60 with an apu you better watch your aft CG when carrying a light pax load. It is pretty tough to top off with an APU. It can be done, but your load has to be right and you are at the aft CG limit

That makes sense with a light passenger load and that big fuselage tank full. Maybe you just need heavier pilots...hahaha

 

[SpeedRestricted]

lots of gas and folks in the back, and it can get pretty aft

In ours we are right up to the aft CG limit with no pax and full fuel, but any pax in the cabin bring it forward, we much much more frequently run into out of limits forward CG and like having the apu weight back there to help.

 

[SpeedRestricted]

I have found the aft CG issue much easier to surmount than a forward cg. Especially for landing CG. Shorter or contaminated runways with a mostly full cabin, you can't always carry enough fuel in the trunk to balance it out. Hence why I think the forward cg is the issue, not aft.

 

[ultrarunner]

Yes, it can get forward, but as fisher correctly pointed out, with a light pax load seated aft, lots of fuel for a long rage flight, a raft and crew bags stowed behind the lav, APU, lighter weight furniture and galley material used in the later birds, etc....you can go AFT. Hence, we seat 'em forward. The locker will make SOME, but not all, loading situations worse.