Lear 45/Excel

[SabreFlyR]

Thanks for all the info on the planes. The more I ask about the Lear, the more discouraged (or nervous) I am to recommend it to the owners. I used to fly a 20-year old 35 and I thought it was great for reliability - much better than our Beechjet! I guess the legacy Lears were better than the Bombardier-built Lears. I've never flown any Citations, but haven't heard any negative about product support from Cessna. That's probably the direction we're heading because I couldn't push for an airplane knowing ahead of time it could be a bigger maintenance disappointment than our Beechjet.

Thanks again.

We are leaning heavily toward the Excel, I do not need any more headaches than I have with the Beechjet we have now.

 

[LJ45]

I would go for less headaches also.
BOMBardier will give you big headaches many days.
Until sales suffers they will not change.

 

[White Feather]

Just a side note,

In the 45, a fleetwide downing of the APU from May to October for a leaky fuel valve and on two seperate occasions a flleetwide downing of the aircraft for pitchtrim actuators for 2 months. Right now there is a fleetwide tearing of the skin in front of the left nosegear door. On multiple occasions a fleetwide deactivation of the cockpit feet heat. The new BR engine switch problem causing Bleed OVHT warnings.

The list goes on and on and on and on. If I were to win the lottery, I wouldn't own one and I have been flying them for the past 4 years. I have never flown the XL but I sure would like to give it a try.

When everything works on the 45 it is a great aircraft for the missions it was built for and stops on a dime on short slick runways. but I am still waiting for the day that everything works.

+1. It is pretty cool when it all works (which is almost never). Interestingly, my former operator sold one (sn 5x) and it has since flown nearly 2,000 hrs problem free

I am flying an Excel now, and flew the LJ45 for 4 yrs. I think the 45 is a nicer airplane, with more bells and whistles, but the dispatch reliability sucks. And, at the end of the day - that is what it's all about.

p.s. - Hi NGT!!

 

[NGT]

What's up!

Porn rules!

 

[Ernest T. Bass]

Two Excels For Sale:

http://www.atlantajet.com/Aircraft/Citation_Excel_SN_560-5255.htm

http://www.atlantajet.com/Aircraft/Citation_Excel_SN_560-5224.htm