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HawkerF/O said:
quote]You are now doing "Mother" jokes:eek: .

To think I actually wasted my time explaining the nuances of the "Full Service Contract" on an idiot like you:0 .

I guess we just found the new class idiot, ready to give advise with the likes of 350driver and TDturbo!
 
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HawkerF/O

Looks like every seems to feel the same way

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=73185

Deuce130 said:
Well, at least Hawker didn't make crude comments involving oral sex and your mother like he did over on the non-aviation board. Hawker is showing himself to be about as dumb as a box of rocks. I'd recommend ignoring him from this point on.

More intellegent talk from the HawkerF/O
HawkerF/O said:
Deuce130, I expect that from all races. It happens all the time, and we both know that. Now, next time you kiss your mom, let me know how I taste.
 
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You know man, you just coulnd't leave it alone. You are still sitting up here thinking a Full Service contract is a 2 event contract and a 61.58 is a checkride! Come on man, just suck it up to not knowing what you are talking about. You made a mistake and it's ok to admit it. Go ahead, admit it. It ok that you don't know what you think you do, but this is 1 case where you are clearly wrong, contradict your own statements (293 and 297 are 2 seperate events but you can combine them and FSI will only count them as 1, even though FSI considers them to be 2 seperate events), and still wanna pop your mouth off). As soon as you get clarification, I'll be here for that apology that's headed my way.
501261 said:
You are now doing "Mother" jokes:eek: .

To think I actually wasted my time explaining the nuances of the "Full Service Contract" on an idiot like you:0 .

I guess we just found the new class idiot, ready to give advise with the likes of 350driver and TDturbo!
 
HawkerF/O said:
You know man, you just coulnd't leave it alone. You are still sitting up here thinking a Full Service contract is a 2 event contract and a 61.58 is a checkride! Come on man, just suck it up to not knowing what you are talking about. You made a mistake and it's ok to admit it. Go ahead, admit it. It ok that you don't know what you think you do, but this is 1 case where you are clearly wrong, contradict your own statements (293 and 297 are 2 seperate events but you can combine them and FSI will only count them as 1, even though FSI considers them to be 2 seperate events), and still wanna pop your mouth off). As soon as you get clarification, I'll be here for that apology that's headed my way.

For what it is worth, I don't believe FSI will give you a 61.58 sign off without it counting as a training "event" ... But what do I know, I just manage an airplane... :rolleyes:
 
h25b said:
For what it is worth, I don't believe FSI will give you a 61.58 sign off without it counting as a training "event" ... But what do I know, I just manage an airplane... :rolleyes:
That's exactly right! I've had this discusion before with Jason Svoboda, and it's one of the reason we go to Dallas now.
 
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hey fools, this thread WAS about some chap needing a contract pilot

now it's about how Hawker sucks...I mean, if we're going to digress, lets at least digress about girls making out or something.
 
h25b said:
For what it is worth, I don't believe FSI will give you a 61.58 sign off without it counting as a training "event"
I agree. The issue here is that some think a Full service training contract limits the contract holder to 2 training events per the term of the contract. It has been my experience that that is not accurate, Initial events excluded. I guess an exception would be if there is no negotiation, but when I used FSI, we were full service and our Marketing Rep NEVER put something like that in front of us to sign.

My HS125 Initial Full Service was in the neighborhood of 25K, and I went to a initial and recurrent (91: HOU and ILG) on the Hawker, then went to a 135 Citation Recurrent(LGB: 293 & 297) all within the active period of that same contract and no additional cost was incurred. That was just the 1st year.
 
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501261 said:
That's exactly right! I've had this discusion before with Jason Svoboda, and it's one of the reason we go to Dallas now.

FSI has pretty much whittled down the full service program with fine print to the point that it only makes sense if you are are multiple type operator. For people like us operating a single type rating, you're better off just paying for what you need at CAE, Simuflite, Bombardier, what-have-you...
 
HawkerF/O said:
My HS125 Initial Full Service was in the neighborhood of 25K, and I went to a initial and recurrent (91: HOU and ILG) on the Hawker, then went to a 135 Citation Recurrent(LGB: 293 & 297) all within the active period of that same contract and no additional cost was incurred. That was just the 1st year.

The full service agreements that are in use today, as I understand it, are indeed limited to 2 "events" per year. The interpretation of "event" may or may not vary from center to center. However, the case that you mention above I would guess would be legit because you attended 2 full training curriculums inside of the 1 year. The "events" that you attended customarily would include the 293/297 sign-offs (Citation 135 recurrent) & 61.58 sign-off (Hawker 800 recurrent) respectively... And you did so within the first year of the agreement. I think you are both correct.
 
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