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All of this could abruptly change with the demise/salvation of DAL. Like Comair, we are a fast moving, and profitable company....however, we are chained to the Titanic. If she sinks, she'll surely drag us to the bottom as well.
Who knows what hiring will be like after the big DAL announcements.
Who knows what hiring will be like after the big DAL announcements.
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Palerider,
Would you guys be AS profitable if you paid for a lot of things that you do not currently pay for? Like distribution (Delta.com and regular reservations), using Delta personel at Delta outstations, and actually paying for the debt created by buying these RJs? I don't think so. Also, your airplanes have been put on routes that were once full on 727s before they were parked, so I hope you are making money and are full........
Thank Gawd for you guys....and atleast you are helping our furloughs.....
Bye Bye--General Lee
Would you guys be AS profitable if you paid for a lot of things that you do not currently pay for? Like distribution (Delta.com and regular reservations), using Delta personel at Delta outstations, and actually paying for the debt created by buying these RJs? I don't think so. Also, your airplanes have been put on routes that were once full on 727s before they were parked, so I hope you are making money and are full........
Thank Gawd for you guys....and atleast you are helping our furloughs.....
Bye Bye--General Lee
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"Would you guys be AS profitable if you paid for a lot of things that you do not currently pay for? Like distribution (Delta.com and regular reservations), using Delta personel at Delta outstations, and actually paying for the debt created by buying these RJs? I don't think so. Also, your airplanes have been put on routes that were once full on 727s before they were parked, so I hope you are making money and are full........"
Being a complete Idiot must come with mainline employment. DOT fillings you're so willing to dismiss show line item expenses for the very same items you claim are gratis!!!
What would it profit mainline to hide these expenses??...hummm...waiting...right it wouldn't . Seems to me they would be more than willing to make a case of just the opposite to garner recompense.
No you and the rest of you DALPA "brain-e-acs" spend more time trying to drag us all down with you that you can't find time to repair the leak!!! Or won't! The more BS you spout the more it becomes clear to all of us, that read your tripe, you are at a distinct disadvantage having lost the grasp of reality and slipped back into the "Delta Pilot superiority zone". Where all things that happen to you are the result of envy by those who desire to be like you!
Your comment about parked "Dinosaurs" should speak for itself.
Being a complete Idiot must come with mainline employment. DOT fillings you're so willing to dismiss show line item expenses for the very same items you claim are gratis!!!
What would it profit mainline to hide these expenses??...hummm...waiting...right it wouldn't . Seems to me they would be more than willing to make a case of just the opposite to garner recompense.
No you and the rest of you DALPA "brain-e-acs" spend more time trying to drag us all down with you that you can't find time to repair the leak!!! Or won't! The more BS you spout the more it becomes clear to all of us, that read your tripe, you are at a distinct disadvantage having lost the grasp of reality and slipped back into the "Delta Pilot superiority zone". Where all things that happen to you are the result of envy by those who desire to be like you!
Your comment about parked "Dinosaurs" should speak for itself.
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[QUOTE Being a complete Idiot must come with mainline employment. DOT fillings you're so willing to dismiss show line item expenses for the very same items you claim are gratis!!!
Can you post these filings? I find it hard to believe they would be in a DOT filing and not an SEC filing, you know considering they have to do with expenses.
What would it profit mainline to hide these expenses??...hummm...waiting...right it wouldn't .
Acutally it would work out quite well for them. You see if the books like extremely bad, and I'm not saying we are not in trouble, then they, meaning management can ask for more. Delta management has done some very intersting, but legal, accounting practices lately. One that comes to mind is fully funding the pension plan in one quarter instead of over the year. Boy that second quarter really looked bad didn't it.
Seems to me they would be more than willing to make a case of just the opposite to garner recompense.
No you and the rest of you DALPA "brain-e-acs" spend more time trying to drag us all down with you that you can't find time to repair the leak!!!
Now the above is a funny statement. Guess what, unless it finds host, a parasite dies when the host dies. Believe all you want that you are profitable, it doesn't change the bottom line.
Or won't! The more BS you spout the more it becomes clear to all of us, that read your tripe, you are at a distinct disadvantage having lost the grasp of reality and slipped back into the "Delta Pilot superiority zone".
I love that when people have no facts or reasonable counter to an individual they then go into the "oppressive, arrogant mainline pilot act"
Where all things that happen to you are the result of envy by those who desire to be like you!
Your comment about parked "Dinosaurs" should speak for itself.[/QUOTE]
The coming months should be very interesting. My personal hope is that we spin off ASA and Comair since Delta could still retain 51% interested and therefore the feed. I believe that the pilot group will give Grinstein close to what he wants and you will see a mass exodus of senior pilots.
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Can you post these filings? I find it hard to believe they would be in a DOT filing and not an SEC filing, you know considering they have to do with expenses.
What would it profit mainline to hide these expenses??...hummm...waiting...right it wouldn't .
Acutally it would work out quite well for them. You see if the books like extremely bad, and I'm not saying we are not in trouble, then they, meaning management can ask for more. Delta management has done some very intersting, but legal, accounting practices lately. One that comes to mind is fully funding the pension plan in one quarter instead of over the year. Boy that second quarter really looked bad didn't it.
Seems to me they would be more than willing to make a case of just the opposite to garner recompense.
No you and the rest of you DALPA "brain-e-acs" spend more time trying to drag us all down with you that you can't find time to repair the leak!!!
Now the above is a funny statement. Guess what, unless it finds host, a parasite dies when the host dies. Believe all you want that you are profitable, it doesn't change the bottom line.
Or won't! The more BS you spout the more it becomes clear to all of us, that read your tripe, you are at a distinct disadvantage having lost the grasp of reality and slipped back into the "Delta Pilot superiority zone".
I love that when people have no facts or reasonable counter to an individual they then go into the "oppressive, arrogant mainline pilot act"
Where all things that happen to you are the result of envy by those who desire to be like you!
Your comment about parked "Dinosaurs" should speak for itself.[/QUOTE]
The coming months should be very interesting. My personal hope is that we spin off ASA and Comair since Delta could still retain 51% interested and therefore the feed. I believe that the pilot group will give Grinstein close to what he wants and you will see a mass exodus of senior pilots.
Furloughed Delta Pilot
Current Freight Dawg
Well since GG has already stated several times that they have no intention of selling ASA/CMR off due to them being a PROFITABLE portion of the company, that seems moot. As far as a mass exodus, if 11 is gaining steam, yeah, no doubt, which would park the 777's and 400's until training could catch up. THAT wouldn't be to good for the pax.
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Can you post these filings? I find it hard to believe they would be in a DOT filing and not an SEC filing, you know considering they have to do with expenses.
Answer:try DOT.gov archives for a start. If this is beyond your capabilities, ask any 4th grader for help!
Acutally it would work out quite well for them. You see if the books like extremely bad, and I'm not saying we are not in trouble, then they, meaning management can ask for more. Delta management has done some very intersting, but legal, accounting practices lately. One that comes to mind is fully funding the pension plan in one quarter instead of over the year. Boy that second quarter really looked bad didn't it.
Answer: Huh..??
Now the above is a funny statement. Guess what, unless it finds host, a parasite dies when the host dies. Believe all you want that you are profitable, it doesn't change the bottom line.
Answer: Huh..?
I love that when people have no facts or reasonable counter to an individual they then go into the "oppressive, arrogant mainline pilot act"
Answer: Huh???...Aaa..Huh? ooohh OAMPA...well that along with the fact you may need 8 hours horizontal, explains alot! Not to mention the more important matter of your fellow brethern trying to decide if they will take a pay cut to save your collective buts. A pay cut that I hasten to add, will still leave you as the highest paid in the industry. You might want to consider that while you make those non-precision approaches tonight!!!
Can you post these filings? I find it hard to believe they would be in a DOT filing and not an SEC filing, you know considering they have to do with expenses.
Answer:try DOT.gov archives for a start. If this is beyond your capabilities, ask any 4th grader for help!
Acutally it would work out quite well for them. You see if the books like extremely bad, and I'm not saying we are not in trouble, then they, meaning management can ask for more. Delta management has done some very intersting, but legal, accounting practices lately. One that comes to mind is fully funding the pension plan in one quarter instead of over the year. Boy that second quarter really looked bad didn't it.
Answer: Huh..??
Now the above is a funny statement. Guess what, unless it finds host, a parasite dies when the host dies. Believe all you want that you are profitable, it doesn't change the bottom line.
Answer: Huh..?
I love that when people have no facts or reasonable counter to an individual they then go into the "oppressive, arrogant mainline pilot act"
Answer: Huh???...Aaa..Huh? ooohh OAMPA...well that along with the fact you may need 8 hours horizontal, explains alot! Not to mention the more important matter of your fellow brethern trying to decide if they will take a pay cut to save your collective buts. A pay cut that I hasten to add, will still leave you as the highest paid in the industry. You might want to consider that while you make those non-precision approaches tonight!!!
Spinproof,
This has got to be one of the more juvenile retorts I've seen lately. It goes hand in hand with what I said about if someone disagrees but has nothing of value to retort with they resort to personal attacks. Let me see if I have this right so I can use it in the future. Uhh uggh Uhh find a 4th grader. Grow up.
This has got to be one of the more juvenile retorts I've seen lately. It goes hand in hand with what I said about if someone disagrees but has nothing of value to retort with they resort to personal attacks. Let me see if I have this right so I can use it in the future. Uhh uggh Uhh find a 4th grader. Grow up.
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I really have no dog in this hunt but I feel the need to reply anyway.spinproof said:
Spinproof,
You really have no clue what you are talking about. The DOT has absolutely no information whatsoever on the financial health of the airlines. DAL737FO is correct. The only governmental source where you can get financial info in regards to the airlines is the SEC.
Using your logic I should go to the DOT for the financials for Ford or Chevy.
But what do I know? I guess I am just an arrogant mainline pilot as well.
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