Landing speed in an RJ?

[rumorhasit]

What is the landing speed in an RJ...and what is the overspeed limit with flaps down....?

 

[Tina Fey's Scar]

Which RJ?



ERJ:
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Target speed 118-136 kts depending on weight
Flaps 9 - 250kt
Flaps 18/22 - 200kt
Flaps 45 - 145kt

 

[HowlinMadMurdoc]

What is the landing speed in an RJ...and what is the overspeed limit with flaps down....?

CRJ?

ERJ?

FRJ?

ARJ?


FRJ: based on weight - anywhere from 95 to 113 but can be more if we use Cycle speeds.

Flaps 12: either 200 or 205 depending on version, Mod 0 or Mod 10
Flaps 20: 180
Flaps 32: 160

HMM

 

[pianoman]

Which RJ?



ERJ:
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Target speed 118-136 kts depending on weight
Flaps 9 - 250kt
Flaps 18/22 - 200kt
Flaps 45 - 145kt

EMB-145 XR can go to Flaps 45 at 160 if you're not above 10k with the YD off.

 

[slowto250]

I don't know what typical ref speeds are, but it gets a little old being told to "slow to minimum A/S " behind these guys/gals, when we're 5 miles in trail, and 15 from the runway. (CAVU and 2+ miles of pavement). I know this a rather general statement, and must presume it is company policy for most of you. But, couldn't you pick it up just a little ?

Of course, most of you get paid by the hour, now, don't you ?

 

[91100 100 set]

EMB-145 XR can go to Flaps 45 at 160 if you're not above 10k with the YD off.

I bet that comes in handy sometimes. The 145 kias for flaps 45 can be a real hassle when you're heavy and it's bumpy.

 

[labbats]

Flaps 45 is 145 max with up to 155 for windshear/fluctuations.

We had to hold minimum approach airspeed yesterday while being vectored all over Georgia. That's a bit of a sphincter tightener watching your white tape clawing its way up the left side of your screen for 5 minutes at 2000' AGL.

 

[HowlinMadMurdoc]

I don't know what typical ref speeds are, but it gets a little old being told to "slow to minimum A/S " behind these guys/gals, when we're 5 miles in trail, and 15 from the runway. (CAVU and 2+ miles of pavement). I know this a rather general statement, and must presume it is company policy for most of you. But, couldn't you pick it up just a little ?

Of course, most of you get paid by the hour, now, don't you ?

Some of us don't fly a plane with reversers...just ground spoilers and REALLY good brakes.

Sometimes, when landing at cycle speeds, we need all 10k feet of runway...or so it seems!

And, yes, we are paid by the hour, so what's the dang hurry? If you fly for a major, you make a lot more than I do! So, slow to min airspeed and cash that check!!!

HMM

 

[pianoman]

I guess it depends which RJ you're following. In the EMB, we often are told to slow it up because the 737's can't keep the speed up quite as long as we can before slowing to approach.

I agree with the "paid by the hour" statement wholeheartedly, BTW.

 

[Sinca3]

CRJ (Canadair or CL65) @ 47,000# (MGLW)is 142kts ref. ASA adds a factor of either 5 or 10 kts depending on wind speeds/gust, so 147kts is average on final for us.
Speeds on final range from a low of around 125kts to the high of 142kts

 

[DrewBlows]

FRJ: based on weight - anywhere from 95 to 113 but can be more if we use Cycle speeds.

Have you ever seen 95? I don't think I have ever seen less that 109, or 105. Oh hell, I don't remember.

 

[Propsync]

I don't know what typical ref speeds are, but it gets a little old being told to "slow to minimum A/S " behind these guys/gals, when we're 5 miles in trail, and 15 from the runway. (CAVU and 2+ miles of pavement). I know this a rather general statement, and must presume it is company policy for most of you. But, couldn't you pick it up just a little ?

Of course, most of you get paid by the hour, now, don't you ?

It gets old for me too, and I fly the same plane for them. Stable at 1000 for an IAP, 500 for visual. I like to have full flaps in at some point, but you can keep that thing going at 150 for quite awhile. We've had a lot of new people this past year, and they probably haven't been comfortable flying it faster. Heck, most of the time the Beech has to slow for us.

Drew- I've had 99 as ref once. 101-103 is common in the summer if you're light. 109 is what you see on most days, though.

Labbats- You know, you can always say unable and just fly at a slightly higher speed (Ref+20)? Sounds like you decided riding the shaker was a good idea.

 

[Vector4fun]

I don't know what typical ref speeds are, but it gets a little old being told to "slow to minimum A/S " behind these guys/gals, when we're 5 miles in trail, and 15 from the runway. (CAVU and 2+ miles of pavement). I know this a rather general statement, and must presume it is company policy for most of you. But, couldn't you pick it up just a little ?

It's probably not the RJ in front of ya causing the slow down, more likely the 757 in front of him... I routinely have to slow Vans and C402s down to follow a 757.....

 

[ShadowFlight]

Drew- I've had 99 as ref once.

I've had that once too and, man, talk about an adjustment from the usual 109-113...the DoJet just wallows along at 99 (or so it seemed).

On the flip side, I did the late ATW-MKE flight once and didn't have any passengers. Don't want to violate that ATW Class D speed restriction or the 3000' initial altitude on departure! What fun - almost like an amusement park ride!

Peace

SF

 

[bailout]

I doubt anyone has had to slow down becuse of a CRJ. (200) Its always us having to slow down for someone in front of us.

 

[CA1900]

Bailout -- I've had to slow down frequently for CRJs dragging it in. Of course, that's because I'll do 245 until about about a 3 mile final unless they tell me to slow down earlier.

 

[bvt1151]

CR7 is constantly asked to slow down for CRJ's, but usually at cruise or in the climb. Then again, we're asked to slow down for everybody in the climb. Ref is 125-135, but 125 is very fast for the 50-54k range.

 

[rumorhasit]

How can you overspeed on an approach in an ERJ with all the "bells and whistles"?

 

[Russ]

Its not the landing that worries me in the CRJ, its the flaps 8 T/O at DEN or COS in the middle of summer that catches my attention. Nothing like seeing the 3 board on a 12,000 ft runway wizz by.