Kolski makes NPA tuck tale and run!

[scarlet]

Whats that ALPA ?? NEVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[fletch717]

Ready for a real union yet?

Does one exist? That's like asking if you are ready for a CEO that cares about the employees?

 

[another cfii]

If Kolski won't allow you guys to show up in uniform, how about showing up in suits, but wear the NPA pins? At least show them you guys are watching... Good luck fellas!

 

[scarlet]

I agree..lets just wait and see game=is the best right now !!

 

[PCL_128]

Whats that ALPA ?? NEVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then resign yourself to being second tier for the rest of your career.

 

[imacdog]

What would ALPA do differently PCL? I remember going to an ALPA meeting when I was at Comair, during the bankruptcy negotiations, and watching the chest thumping. "I WILL go to jail for this group...." Guess what happened - nothing. Concessionary contract presented to the pilot group and voted on.

 

[TV9Driver]

Ask all of us TWA'ers what great representation we got from the "real union"

 

[CopilotDoug]

What would ALPA do differently PCL?

Absolutely nothing. It's exactly like saying that wearing a red shirt makes you a better driver than wearing a blue shirt.

 

[PCL_128]

What would ALPA do differently PCL?

Competent attorneys, a real SPC plan, a real communications plan, etc.... Mike Best would make a great MEC Chairman. As it stands now, he's just a figurehead of an impotent union that stands no chance against men like Kolski.

 

[StaySeated]

PCL, I could care less what you think, but you should know that the "real" union you are referring to recently invited Best and another NPA rep to speak at a collective bargaining roundtable. It seems that ALPA, and APA, and NPA, and SWAPA, and dozens of other unions realize that each airline does not operate in a vacuum and if things are ever going to get turned around it needs to be a collective effort. So, please, simmer down. At some point in time, if you make the same sound over and over and over your audience will filter you out like white noise. Many of your points about activism are valid, but taking a swipe at another organized pilot group is just not acceptable.

 

[spitfire1500]

Sorry Spit, won't work that way. The time for a merger with anybody has passed. Why would you want to merge and get headaches, when you can just wait around for someone to close shop and go get the pieces. I read a few weeks ago in Reuters or one of those business web sites and General Lee made reference to it in one of his posts, that if oil continues to climb, Delta might call off the merger with NW, wait for them to die off and go get the routes. Sh!tty deal for everyone, but like they say business is business.

Yea gotta agree with that... I wouldnt imagine anyone would want to burn cash on a merger right now.

 

[PCL_128]

PCL, I could care less what you think, but you should know that the "real" union you are referring to recently invited Best and another NPA rep to speak at a collective bargaining roundtable. It seems that ALPA, and APA, and NPA, and SWAPA, and dozens of other unions realize that each airline does not operate in a vacuum and if things are ever going to get turned around it needs to be a collective effort.

Yes, I'm well aware that ALPA is keeping a close relationship with the NPA leadership. Just a perfect example of ALPA operating intelligently and like a real union. Thank God for a real union that can get all of us together instead of operating as a bunch of disparate units.

but taking a swipe at another organized pilot group is just not acceptable.

It's my pilot group, so I think I'm entitled to my opinion about our representational unit.

 

[j41driver]

Sooooooooooo, why are we having this discussion here and not on the NPA board?

I wondered the same thing...perhaps the anonymity provided here has something to do with it.

 

[birdman1]

Lear,

I've been hearing on the line a lot (80%) of "we probably should have passed TA2". I've been trying to make my case that we are still better off with what we currently have. Scope to me seems like the big issue, but I'd like hear your thoughts.

If you have the time, how about a few quick points of what life could be like if we voted in TA2 in these trying times. I've heard several guys are saying to their co-pilots "you cost me several thousand dollars". Weak. Times like these we really need to stay on the same page and united.

Thanks in advance and looking forward to seeing you and Don L. back on the line soon.

[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Who are the Capt. Vicki’s that are saying this? I hope to God I fly with them. I am tired of spineless cry baby pilots.[/FONT]

 

[j41driver]

Competent attorneys, a real SPC plan, a real communications plan, etc.... Mike Best would make a great MEC Chairman. As it stands now, he's just a figurehead of an impotent union that stands no chance against men like Kolski.

I'm not a hardliner like PCL but I can't disagree with any of this.