Kalitta 747 crash crew battled dual-engine failure on take-off

[Guam360]

see....this is going no where, no need for this at all.

 

[embpic1]

And we all know the loaders in Bogota never fudge the numbers right?

I talked with one of our guys who ran this scenario in our sim. They also got better performance in the sim than what the aircraft actually did. So they increased the weight to make the sim perform like the plane. Turned out when they added about 30,000 lbs the sim acted just like the accident airplane. I also know that they were carrying lots of flowers. I heard there was some suspicion that they watered the flowers after they were weighed. That coupled with them 'putting on a little extra' could explain why the aircraft performed worse than it should have. Of course the Bogota authorities would never admit to that.....

 

[Dornier 335]

Hey Capt. Over!

Running low on your magic blue little pills? This article was posted on FlightInternational's website on 12:15 9 Jan 2012. It is an update/conclusion of an investigation. Not my problem if your reading comprehension is third-grade level. Title and article were copied as they appear on this thread. Why don't you show us all your big cojones and complain to the FlightInternational author!

Peace!

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[ClrdForOption]

And we all know the loaders in Bogota never fudge the numbers right?

Back in the day we used to have this problem when I 'worked in the back' as an LM - what we would do to keep 'em honest was to pick out 3-6 pallets at random and have them re-weighed on the spot - after making sure that the scale was accurate in the xfer warehouse. If there was any problems then all the pallets were reweighed and we used those numbers.

It was a constant battle.

I also used to keep records of every flight I worked - weights of average pallets based on the number of boxes and different types of flowers. It was my skin flying with the plane and i was always looking for things that were off.

 

[Squirrel29]

Did they ever find the fuel truck?

 

[GittinFatter]

Oh yea, it showed up about 4days later, nice and clean!

 

[OrionFE]

NTSB was able to get fuel samples from the engines......fuel was clean! #4 Engine suffered a Compressor Stall at rotate. #1 Engine had a turbine failure after being advanced to Emergency Thrust!

A couple of weeks later, the replacement plane also suffered a compressor stall at rotate. The Pratts don't seem to do well at high altitude runways. Any kind of air disturbance seems to cause the compressor stalls???

 

[Dumbluck]

Any other operators run 747 classics out of there? Or even other heavy a/c powered by Pratt's? It would be interesting to find out if other operators have had similar issues.