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I will yield that the class date=job certainly has more of a finality to it I have one more question before I let this lie. What does in plain English "you were not selected to continue in the selection process" mean?

Your kidding right? I don't know, maybe "your not continueing the process"? There have been occasions where fellers recieved the "good call, congrats and your continuing the process, to sorry, your background check dosen't jive with what you disclose.

Your not hired until the first day of class. Point blank and very clear. If they find something on your background check which turns up that you did not disclose, sorry and begs to ask what else could there be?

Just a word of caution. The background check is very very detailed. If you hide it, they will find it.
 
What does in plain English "you were not selected to continue in the selection process" mean?

Your kidding? Sorry for the "not selected to continue"="Not hired" letter. Better luck next time.
 
I flew with a guy this past week and we were talking about people getting hired. He said he went to bat for a "good" friend that he was friends with for years in the flying community. Well the guy did not get the job. Well it turns out the guy dropped out of high school and never even went back to get a GED. Did the guy writing the letters of rec know this....hell no. He said had he known this he would have never gotten involved.

You may not know everything about people you feel you are friends with. Now if you met this guy in the interview, you don't no crap about him/her. Quit feeling sorry for them because this is still like a poker game for some people. Hide your cards until someone calls you then they see you were bluffing....then you lose.
 
I work with the guy that everyone is talking about. He is a stand up individual. It was simply a error on SWA. The day he interviewed, there was also a guy there with the same last name and same first name initial. The phone call went like this:

CP “Hi, this is the CP from SWA, is Joe Blow in?”
AP “This is Jim Blow.”
CP “Uhm, yeah, Jim blow congratulations you are passing onto the next phase”
AP “Awesome, I am so happy. I am going to tell everyone”

A few days later Jim Blow go the letter in the mail. He called the People Department and they informed him that there was a mix up. He didn’t do well in the LOI portion of the interview.
 
I work with the guy that everyone is talking about. He is a stand up individual. It was simply a error on SWA. The day he interviewed, there was also a guy there with the same last name and same first name initial. The phone call went like this:

CP “Hi, this is the CP from SWA, is Joe Blow in?”
AP “This is Jim Blow.”
CP “Uhm, yeah, Jim blow congratulations you are passing onto the next phase”
AP “Awesome, I am so happy. I am going to tell everyone”

A few days later Jim Blow go the letter in the mail. He called the People Department and they informed him that there was a mix up. He didn’t do well in the LOI portion of the interview.

I'm glad that SWA clarified where he went wrong, I wish they could've told me so I could learn from the experience. It is good to hear that the guys integrity is intact, there were a few posters on this topic assumed off the bat he must have had a skeleton in his closet and he was not telling me everything.

Thank you for your post.
 
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They did not tell me what I scrwed up on when I did not get it the first time. I highly doubt they told him but who am I....I guess the stars align once in every decade. I think that is the canned reason why people don;t get the job due to a poor interview. I screwed up the LOI. If that is the case then he or she should have no problem getting a second interview.
 
I've got a signed letter from Plato Rhryne at Delta telling me I'm in. I've also got the one I got a few weeks later telling me they changed their minds. That was 2000. Man am I glad for miracles.

Gup
 
As someone told me as I transitioned from the military into this business...

"You're not an employee until your sitting in class with an employee # on your company badge....and then you're on probation for 12 months!"

Never burn a bridge until you have to....and always have a plan B.

Best advice given in this thread!
 
He was never offered a job. He was offered to continue. Then he was offered out of the process. In of story. You are not hired until you are sitting in class with an employee number. Can he produce a number? If not sorry but sheet happens
 
I have a friend with a similar Plato story...about the same time. Don't know what happened, but both you guys ended up better off--but I'm sure it stung at the time.
 
Southwest Airlines is just like all of the other scum bag airlines out there. I checked the box, instructing SWA not to contact my present employer. They allowed US Investigations to contact my then present employer and I was fired, end of story. No one, and I mean no one gave a crap, and I received no apologies. The devils at SWA will forever live in Hell in my heart. Mistakes hurt not only people, but families. Think about that the next time you are in a hurry, AND dealing with strangers. What you do affects people in ways you are not aware of.....THINK PEOPLE!
 
The devils at SWA will forever live in Hell in my heart.
Ouch... harsh...

I've always wondered about that. If Southwest gets through all your background people WITHOUT contacting your current employer, will they make a hire / not-hire decision without EVER talking to them?

Sorry about your luck, I've flown for charter groups that work like that. Those At-Will work states can be a b*tch... :(
 
Too bad there are companies that don't help their employees move to better positions. We ask our pilots to us know when they are interviewing especially places like SWA so if we get the call we can give them a good recommendation. We know there are better jobs out there, and see no reason a pilot should not try to better themselves. I think it is a feather in our cap that our pilots move on to FedEx, UPS, SWA, DAL, etc. it means we picked some good ones.
 
Too bad there are companies that don't help their employees move to better positions. We ask our pilots to us know when they are interviewing especially places like SWA so if we get the call we can give them a good recommendation. We know there are better jobs out there, and see no reason a pilot should not try to better themselves. I think it is a feather in our cap that our pilots move on to FedEx, UPS, SWA, DAL, etc. it means we picked some good ones.
Well said, I am fortunate that AMF is also in the same camp as regarding the betterment of their pilots to greener pastures.
 

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