Junior Manning?

[seattle]

What is junior manning? It sounds like a bad thing. Thanks.

Seattle

 

[d328pilot]

Ever seen the movie Office Space? Well junior manning is kinda what happens when he is asked to come in on the weekend. "hey peter whats happening. umm, yeah, we are gonna need you to come in on saturday, yeah, well um better make it sunday too. thanks peter" or something like that.

 

[flx757]

Junior manning occurs when there are open trips left after all regular line holders who bid to pick up open time have picked up what they want, and all reserve pilots that are legal and available for that day have been assigned.

To cover the remaining open trip(s), crew scheduling is supposed to contact the most junior pilot that is legal to cover the trip, and proceed in reverse seniority order until they cover all the open time. Usually, it's the first pilot they can find that will answer their phone.

Sometimes it seems that it is more "junior convenient". That is, whomever they can contact, by whatever means, they will assign the trip...whether they are actually the most "junior available" or not.

 

[seattle]

Is this supposed to help the junior guys/gals get more flight time? Why do airlines let their pilot labor pools get so low that they have to resort to forced overtime? This doesn't affect people with enough seniority to hold a line does it? Sorry for all of the q's - just try'n to learn. Thanks.

Seattle

 

[surplus1]

Is this supposed to help the junior guys/gals get more flight time? Why do airlines let their pilot labor pools get so low that they have to resort to forced overtime? This doesn't affect people with enough seniority to hold a line does it? Sorry for all of the q's - just try'n to learn. Thanks.

Seattle

No, it is not supposed to help junior pilots get more flight time. The only place I've ever heard of a pilot wanting to "get more flight time" is in some small airline that hires inexperienced pilots. Airline pilots normally want to fly as little as possible for as much (money) as possible.

Why do airlines let staffing get so low? ....... Money, money, money. It is much cheaper to "junior man" a few pilots than to hire a new pilot.

In some cases it does affect people with enough seniority to hold a line. That depends on the pilot contract at the particular airline. Some contracts do not allow any junior manning at all.

Junior manning usually refers to calling in a pilot on his day off.

 

[justApilot]

Bottom line....if you don't want to fly....don't answer the phone.

 

[beezlebozo]

"In some cases it does affect people with enough seniority to hold a line. That depends on the pilot contract at the particular airline. Some contracts do not allow any junior manning at all."


It is my understanding that there is only one contract that doesn't allow junior manning at all (onto a trip on a day off).

Atlantic Coast Airlines

Beezlebozo,
Clown from hell

 

[bobbysamd]

Are there ever any cases when no one can be found to cover a trip? Does that mean the trip is canxed?

 

[ShawnC]

Well as soon as I get an airline job I am going to have to start using a call screener. Or at least get one of those voice changers that you see in the back of some magizines.

 

[Boeingman]

Junior Manning? Sounds like a lineman for the Cowboys.

We have it at CAL. Only the ones who do not take precautions get nailed. Unless you get tagged at the airport by a tracker.

The pay is %150 normal rate. Not a bad deal but it blows while guys are on the street.